Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2013,09:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2013,14:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2013,21:32) but we do not “now” see man crowned with glory and honor and all things under his feet, Actually Gene, it says:  In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2013,09:17)Mike……… They are the Gods of (THOSE PEOPLE) but they are “FALSE” Gods, can't you understand that?Just show me where the Bible says that, and I'll believe it, Gene.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2013,09:17)What is interesting you use big Elohims and Little Elohims as if in scripture that is they way…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 15 2013,14:45)Yes you are mistaken,READ!So when scripture says John the Baptist was a man sent FROM God, we can assume that he too came “out of” God the same way Jesus did?

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 15 2013,07:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2013,09:51)jammin, are the words “Jesus Christ” in the Greek mss of that verse TWICE – like the GW implies?  YES or NO?the word houtos refers to christ.So then the honest and DIRECT answer to my question is “NO Mike, the words 'Jesus Christ' are NOT in that verse TWICE, like the GW…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 15 2013,07:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2013,10:18)Your sister Kathi says the “god” mentioned in 2 Cor 4:4 is Jehovah, not Satan.you should talk to sis kathi about that. do not say that to me.Why would she listen to me about it? She doesn't listen to me about anything else.On the other hand, you and her seem to agree on…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 15 2013,15:19)Mike,you said:Quote So then, even though the words “Satan is not God” are nowhere to be found in the scriptures, we can still KNOW that he is not God from the scripture you quoted, because it lists Satan as someone OTHER THAN God, right? Aren't you the one that wanted to convince me that satan was the god of…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 15 2013,07:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2013,10:11)Quote (jammin @ Feb. 14 2013,03:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2013,11:21)Quote (jammin @ Feb. 11 2013,18:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,06:14) Can you read me a scripture that says, “Satan is not the God of Abraham”?  satan is not GOD by nature. he is the enemy of G…[Read more]

The words John wrote were, anyone not believing that JESUS CHRIST has COME IN THE FLESH is the antichrist.Your answer is a “non-answer”.  Now, please DIRECTLY answer both of the questions from my last post.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2013,17:38)It is possible Mike does confuse messengers being called gods with Jehovah being called God as he seems to believe messengers are the same kind as Jehovah.Really Kerwin? What a cheap shot.I most definitely know the difference between the MOST HIGH elohim, Jehovah, and the other elohim He created.And yes, they…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 15 2013,09:53)Jesus was simply saying if the word of God cames to you, your are Gods Possession because He is (IN) you and His presence is there But that in no way makes you a God or a Little god either.So then the fact that Jehovah Himself called them gods is of no consequence to you, Gene?  Mike, Jehovah Himself…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2013,00:07)Mike,I already gave you scriptural support that Jesus is speaking of the glory of his self sacrifice, resurrection, ascension, and mediation.No you didn't, because there is no scriptural support for such an asinine claim.You version (which I once again reiterate is because your doctrine won't allow you to accept…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2013,21:32) but we do not “now” see man crowned with glory and honor and all things under his feet, Actually Gene, it says:  In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him.God subjected the world to man, Gene.  He made all things o…[Read more]

Hi All,Though only Gene has answered my question directly, I'm going to assume that since Kerwin and 2B don't think Jesus existed as something else before he “came in the flesh”, that they vote for #1, ie: “has come in the flesh” is just an odd way of saying, “he was born like any other human being”.1. Can you guys find and post an instance of…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 15 2013,09:48)The fact is that in Deuteronomy 6:4 Moses used the plural possessive pronoun-suffix “inu” which indicates without question that elohim must be translated “Gods.”I guess Jesus didn't know as much about the Hebrew language as you do. Because he quoted that very verse as “God”, not “Gods”.

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 15 2013,11:41)Jack,your response to Mike:Quote Like I said Mike, no one has been able to refute it. He just did refute you…….Mark 12:29Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; 'God' is written in the singular here in the bold part. That should refute your argument easily.It see…[Read more]

God dwells in unapproachable light. (1 Tim 6:16)

So then, “has come in the flesh” just means he was a human being?Why not just say that, Kerwin? Or just say, “#1”? Please stop being “mysterious”, and DIRECTLY answer my question, okay?

Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2013,21:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2013,15:09)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,05:33)That does not mean that every family back then dont have many children,I think the contrary.I do think they were breading like rabbits.(free sex).And you may be right, Wakeup.  Perhaps Noah having his first children at age 500 was an…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2013,21:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,10:49)Quote (david @ Feb. 05 2013,16:02)Mike, interesting thread.Thanks David.  You have I have already had quite an extensive discussion in this thread.  Yes, was quite surprised to realize that.  It's almost like I'm 74.That's the good thing about losing your memory. You get to…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2013,21:34)define what you mean by “humanoid”This is from Wikipedia:The timeline of human evolution outlines the major events in the development of human species, and the evolution of humans' ancestors.Scroll down about 3/4 through this page, and you'll see a dude called Homo heidelbergensis, which is reportedly an ancestor…[Read more]