Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 20 2013,10:17)Mike ……Again you contradict Jesus' very own word recorded in three gospels with your ” emphatic none emphatic garbage trying to twist clear scriptures to meet your own  perceptions.I'm sorry Gene, but I thought I asked you some fairly direct questions about Micah in that last post.ADDRESS THE…[Read more]

Gene,There are many scriptural examples of EMPHATICAL statements.  Consider Romans 15:14, where Paul says, “you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge“.  Notice that the word “goodness” is the same Greek word used when Jesus said “only God is good”.  And notice that Paul says the disciples of Christ are filled with ALL kn…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 20 2013,09:12)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 20 2013,16:00)Hi Gene,I hear what you are saying, and agree in part and disagree in part, mostly with 2nd Thes, but that is a different topic.With that scripture that you were looking for, where God said that none was found good: Revelations 5: And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 19 2013,22:53)LU,The boy could have verbalized his belief by stating that he believed that God was in Jesus doing his works as Jesus is the holy one he sent. The words glorify God and not Jesus.Right you are, Kerwin. In fact, ALL the words Jesus spoke were for the purpose of glorifying his God and our God. He never spoke to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2013,10:38)The Bible is capable of teaching us that Satan is NOT the God of Abraham simply by listing Satan as someone OTHER THAN the God of Abraham – just like you've pointed out in the quote box above, right?Likewise, the Bible is capable of teaching us that Jesus is NOT the God of Abraham simply by listing Jesus as…[Read more]

So that's all it boils down to, jammin? REALLY?Mike, Satan is called god with a small g, and Jesus is called God with a big G…………. SO THERE! How about you show me that small g and big G in a Greek ms, okay?

Point taken, Pierre. Could you answer the question I bolded for David, please?

We on earth do NOT dwell in unapproachable light. Ergo, God does not dwell on earth. Ergo, God is NOT everywhere all the time.

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 16 2013,19:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2013,16:51)Quote (jammin @ Feb. 15 2013,07:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2013,09:51)jammin, are the words “Jesus Christ” in the Greek mss of that verse TWICE – like the GW implies?  YES or NO?the word houtos refers to christ.So then the honest and DIRECT answer to my question is “NO…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 16 2013,14:17)Quote Surely God would have known how these terms would confuse us, if Jesus truly had existed from eternity, right?“He was an entity of the same kind as Himself, within Him and then born/begotten/brought forth from out of Him.”Sons are an entity within the parent of the same kind as the parent and then…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 16 2013,14:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2013,17:59)Hi Kathi,I am interested to know your thoughts about these points I made yesterday:Surely God knew how we humans would understand the words “son”, “firstborn”, and “only begotten”.  Why do you suppose God would TRICK us by using these words for His own “Son” – if the the…[Read more]

Charles and Kathi, this is from the “Divider” thread:Luke 5:8 When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!”The bolded words above are also Stong's 1831, but that doesn't mean Jesus was inside of Peter when he said those words.Don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe Jesus was brought into…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,00:56)I believe the divine council of the sons of God were regarding heavenly beings not earthly judges.I agree. Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,00:56)The earthly judges were never called elohim.I and scriptures disagree with you on this one.Kathi, can't you see how WEAK this point is anyway?  t8, Jesus is called…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 16 2013,22:52)Quote If you believe you are right, use the word “THEY” please. Be consistent.I do.Are you saying that you change the scriptures, like the ones t8 quoted, to say “THEM” instead of “HE” when you quote them? I haven't seen that from you?

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 17 2013,00:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,18:49)Quote (t @ 8)“Do you not know that you can partake in divine nature”.Do you not know that you can partake in chocolate cake? Does that mean you become a chocolate cake?The chocolate cake example was not a good one because you do not join a chocolate cake, rather you eat…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 16 2013,17:03)Mike, I am glad you are committed to refuting them. It solves the problem. But if we cannot keep up with the spam of false doctrine, I will look at implimenting something in that case.It is not as if I am casting false teachers into prison, because there are plenty of places where they can teach their doctrines…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 17 2013,19:42)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 17 2013,14:35)Your argument was (in essence): since “AB” is used in Isaiah 9:6 this fact precludes “God the Father” because he is “ABBA” instead.Not so.I was asking a question, not making a statement.Ed, this is the second time I've posted this for you.  It is from the 2nd post on page 10:Quote…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 17 2013,16:06)Mike……..I agree with ED J…….Jesus in not those things, He is also not “the EVERLASTING FATHER ” either.Hi Gene,Read my above post to Ed, and DIRECTLY answer the question I asked him, okay?(Perhaps you should also read the 2nd post on page 9 of this thread. At least then you could be discussing…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2013,18:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,07:26)Ed,Look at these last three definitions of “ab”……..7) of benevolence and protection (fig.)8) term of respect and honour9) ruler or chief (spec.)Any one of those three would fit Jesus.  7)  “Everlasting protector”.  8)  “Everlasting deserver of our respect”.  9)  “Ev…[Read more]

Are you all caught up now, Kathi? Do you realize what the exercise was all about now?