Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,08:45)Mike?Quote #1 is not only lacking common sense, but also lacks a single shred of scriptural support.You, who speak frequently about the pre-existence of Christ now don't believe He existed before conception? No scriptural support you say??Bump for Mike.Jesus did not exist…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:33)If it was common sense that a person pre-exists his conception, then Gene and Kerwin would have no problem with it.You should know that common sense isn't as common as its name suggests.  It only takes common sense to understand that the words, “glorify me now with the glory I HAD before the world began”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:28)The two powers of YHVH is a documented understanding, not just mine. You need to watch the videos I put up to see this…………Unless it's documented in the actual scriptures, why should I care?Show me from SCRIPTURES, Kathi.

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,07:03)It doesn't make sense with Moses, but IT DOES make sense with Christ ……………..Why Kathi?  Why would it be OBVIOUS that one particular servant of God could not be “God over all”, but not just as obvious that the other servant…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:06)Gene, Kerwin, et al believe that when Jesus said he was both the Root AND the Offspring of David, he really meant he was both the Offspring AND the Offspring of David.Actually, Mike,I don't think that is what Gene, Kerwin, et al think. You are putting words in their…[Read more]

Gene,I've posted scriptural information in that last post.  Then I posted the scriptures that prove the information is accurate.  Then I asked you a point-blank question.But instead of a YES or NO answer, I got a bunch of unrelated mumbo-jumbo.Please answer the question I asked.  Here, let me guide you to the truthful answer:Isaiah 2220 “In that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2013,17:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2013,13:17)But still doesn't explain why it is directly said in scripture that AFTER the one mentioned, the father begat other sons and daughters.It is never said that the father begot other sons and daughters BEFORE the son who was mentioned by name.Why do you suppose that is?  Even with…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2013,17:10)Perhaps this is a literal seed. In that there are two kinds of humans.I don't agree with “two kinds of humans“, t8, but you've got me thinking.I agree with scripture that Adam was the first of the species known as “adam”.But what about the Nephilim? Were they considered “adam-kind” – or a different species?Does…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2013,17:06)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 26 2013,15:37)Quote I am going by the fact Noah was 500 years old before he had his firstborn.  And all three of his children were childless at the age of 100+ years.you know what i find curious is that all the first born of those mention in scriptures are only male descends,I can not see…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 25 2013,23:21)If our destiny is to become like the angels, when were angels once like us? Were they physical beings living on a planet somewhere and graduated to Spiritual bodies and able to traverse the heavens?Is this why the sons of God were able to come down and have relations with the woman of men. Even though angels do not…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 25 2013,22:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 26 2013,10:52)The “little-brained humanoids” were sexually compatible with Cain, the “charlton”, but they were not called “charltons” like Cain and his father.did God say HUMANs are animals?jammin,Perhaps you are a descendant of one of those “little-brained humanoids” that I wrote about.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 25 2013,19:50)so I do not share your view on this my friendI can live with that.  I do find it interesting that in all these pages, only David has said, Hmmmm……… that's interesting.  I've never noticed that before.It seems like the rest of you don't even find it the least bit interesting that God gave Eve Seth to R…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2013,12:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,13:18)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,23:50)Instead John 17:5 is Jesus asking for his glory that he had with Jehovah before the World began.That's right, Kerwin.  And if you ask for something you ALREADY HAD, then you are OBVIOUSLY asking for the RETURN of that something.This really…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 26 2013,09:39)Scripture also says Jesus has Angels he at his disposal…………Jesus also had many human disciples at his disposal. Does that mean he was not a human when he was on earth?Michael, as the archangel, also has many angels at his disposal. Does that mean Michael is not an angel?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 26 2013,10:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,13:43)Kerwin had wonderful time on vacation.  The beautiful view of the ocean made his room the best room in the hotel.  So when he checked out, he pre-booked that same room for next year's vacation.But when he showed up the next year to check in, they had forgotten about h…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2013,12:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,08:19)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 24 2013,09:03)Gene,You welcomed me as if I was a Legislator of the U.S., as if I was President Obama himself.  Perfect example, Kerwin.  Thanks!  Naturally, for the comparison to work, the individual mentioned would HAVE TO BE a part of the group me…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 25 2013,18:42)All,No, you are misunderstanding.The Holy Spirit Son pre-existed and may have been called Yahshua.The Spirit then worked through the MAN the second Adam, 100% man He was, but after the baptism, completely under the Holy spirits power.I do not have the time right now to go through it properly but I will post a bit…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 25 2013,18:29)1.  why would someone be punished seven time over for having killed a man that killed his brother 2.  this would be similar to ;why God did not killed Satan after he sinned1.  Perhaps God was teaching that two wrongs don't make a right.  2.  God decided to let Satan have his rebellion and play it out – so a…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 25 2013,18:10)Any thoughts from anyone?The Holy Spirit of God cannot be the Son of God, for the Son of God was once said to have been filled with joy THROUGH the Holy Spirit.The Holy Spirit of God descended upon the Son of God.God sent His Son to die as atonement for our sins – something the Holy Spirit cannot do – especially…[Read more]

The italicized words below are things said about “the Word” in John 1.  The scriptures listed in parenthesis identify some of the places in scripture where those same exact things are said about Jesus.1.  And the Word was a god:  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)2.  He was with God in the beginning:  (John 17:5)3.  All things were made through him:  (Col…[Read more]