Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2013,01:08)Therefore Jehovah is in Jesus though the Son.What the freak are you rambling on about, Kerwin? Jesus IS the Son.Where can I read about this OTHER Son of God being IN Jesus, the Son of God?John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.Where is the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2013,09:50)Mike…….ok let's look at it this way , what is a root , is it not that which came from a “SEED”………..It depends on the context, Gene.For example, in 1 Timothy 6:10, when Paul tells us that “money is the root of all kinds of evil”, doesn't it mean that all kinds of evil stem FROM money?And when Job…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 01 2013,13:58)I WILL COME TO YOU. Two became ONE.So Jesus couldn't have been saying that he would send the Holy Spirit AND he himself would also come to them?Both are true, right?

Quote (abe @ Feb. 27 2013,13:17)Hi Mike,Rev.21:9   “Come here, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”TWO   BECAME   ONEThe two are still two, Abe.  They are “one” in purpose, just like all of us can be “one” with them, without actually BEING them.But there are still two of them.  One sits at the right hand of the other, waiting for that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 27 2013,04:57)The Son is in Jesus and gives its full authority over all things in heaven and earth to him. He even has authority to give the Son to others……………Have you run that one by Gene yet, Kerwin? He keeps on reminding us that THE FATHER was in Jesus, doing the works – just like scripture says. I don't…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 27 2013,02:01)The word was not another God, just as Gods spirit is not another God.That is silly.Well so far, I've been going verse by verse, and showing you all that the very things said about “The Word” in John 1 are said elsewhere in scripture about “Jesus”. There hasn't been a miss yet, and many of the verses contain two…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 27 2013,01:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2013,14:46)2B,Was the flesh Son elevated to an even higher position than the original Spirit Son?Mike I believe I have maybe gone a little off track somewhere……….. how could the one true God's own Spirit be less than the one who is seated at the one true God's right hand…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2013,23:24)Mike,So your position stands that certain humans are lesser gods because scripture calls them gods.Yes Kerwin,If scripture called Jesus a polka-dotted bunny, then I would also believe that, because it was scripture that said so.The real question is: If scripture DOES call them gods, like you admit, then WHY in…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Feb. 26 2013,21:45)Hi Mike,1. Christ is the Beginning of the creation. (WISDOM)2. The WORD is another Part of HIM. (WORD)3. The Spirit of God is another PART of him. (SPIRIT)4. The different parts were created IN the First DAY or (LIGHT).5. How did they get separated?Peace brother…Hi Abe,1. Yes. Christ is the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,21:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 26 2013,19:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,07:03)It doesn't make sense with Moses, but IT DOES make sense with Christ ……………..Why Kathi?  Why would it be OBVIOUS that one particular servant of God…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,21:35)I am saying that He existed as a spirit being before He was begotten before the ages. I have shown you that He was the eternal life that was with the Father from 1 John 1.we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to usSince all of us have the chance of gaining eternal life…[Read more]

Good points, all. I kind of want to see that movie “Splice”, that he warned us against. I get your point about lions maybe being herbivores and laying down with lambs before the fallen ones messed with the DNA……… but why did God change His mind and tell Noah he could start being an omnivore after the flood?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,18:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2013,06:13)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,03:22)Mike,This is just another case where you seem to use English differently than I do.Kerwin, Tell me HONESTLY (I implore you in the name of Jesus Christ to answer HONESTLY) if the following comparison statement makes sense to you:They…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,18:24)Mike,There are at least several types of angels.Show me this from scripture, Kerwin. Show me that these various different beings are all called “angels” in the Hebrew or Greek languages.The English word “angel” refers to a SPIRIT “aggelos”. In the Greek, they just wrote “aggelos”, and the reader would have to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,18:16)Mike,The children of Israel were also foreknown and predestined to inherit the land of Canaan.Yep. And tell me which one of them ever said, “God, please give me now the land I HAD with you before Isaac was born.”Did any of them say that, Kerwin? YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,18:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2013,05:31)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2013,23:40)You declare a person cannot have an inheritance before they are conceived.  It easy enough for a human to grant an inheritance to a child that is not yet conceived.I declare that a person can't say, “Give me the inheritance I HAD with you…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 28 2013,17:24)But Only mesengers which are human Beings.Messengers can be human beings or spirit beings, Gene.  In fact, scripture speaks of things like mountains and rocks being able to witness and testify.But the only messengers that English-speaking people call “angels” are the spirit messengers of God.  Jesus IS a s…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,03:22)Barnes and others conclude that this Scripture is making the case:Quote That the Lord Jesus is superior to an angel of God.And what exactly IS “an angel of God”, Kerwin? A spirit messenger of God? YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,03:22)Mike,This is just another case where you seem to use English differently than I do.Kerwin, Tell me HONESTLY (I implore you in the name of Jesus Christ to answer HONESTLY) if the following comparison statement makes sense to you:They welcomed me as if I were an NFL Hall of Famer, as if I was Michael Jackson…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 27 2013,09:34)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2013,10:04)Gene. Are you looking forward to the glory you had with the Father before the world began? If so, how come you never mention it.T8………. YES I AM, brother.So you've already HAD glory with God before the world began, Gene? What did that feel like? And how cool was it…[Read more]