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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 26 2013,19:55)so his love a pure  emotion or something like a quality to learn and improve on ???Don't know. What do you think?

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    Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 05 2013,16:53)If we say the Father was not eternally Father, when did our unchanging God become a Father?Does becoming a father actually constitute a change in that person, or only in his circumstances?God wasn't always “the King of Israel” either. But did His becoming Israel's King constitute a change in the immutable…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 28 2013,17:38)Mike………the word Father can be used in a relative sense to a topic, Like the fathers of our nation, our the term our forefathers, i know that……….Very good, Gene.Then there is no logical or scriptural reason that Jesus can't “relatively” be called “everlasting father”, right?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 01 2013,00:12)Hypothetical translation of John 17:5.And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which (I kept) with thee before the world was.Anything to keep it from meaning the most obvious thing, “I had”, huh? :)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,23:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2013,06:44)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,18:24)Mike,There are at least several types of angels.Show me this from scripture, Kerwin. Mike,In the old testament we are told man is a little lower than the gods.That scripture is translated in Hebrews that man is a little lower than the…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 28 2013,23:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2013,06:49)……….tell me which one of the following two makes sense:1.  They welcomed me as if I was a famous recording artist, as if I was Michael Jackson himself.2.  They welcomed me as if I was a famous recording artist, as if I was Abraham Lincoln himself.Mike,The scope to w…[Read more]

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    Acts 1316 Standing up, Paul motioned with his hand and said: “Men of Israel and you Gentiles who worship God, listen to me! 17 The God of the people of Israel chose our fathers………….22 After removing Saul, he made David their king. 23 From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised.” Kathi, please tel…[Read more]

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    Kathi? (6th post on page 188)

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 04 2013,19:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2013,08:27)Kerwin,Were you ever going to answer the Kerwin's Hotel Saga question for me?  How about you 2B?  So far, only Gene and I have answered it.Here is the gist of it:If Kerwin tells the front dest clerk that he wants the room HE HAD last year, is he talking about:A.  The room [Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 04 2013,09:00)MIKE…….GOD AND HIS SPIRIT ARE ONE, JUSTY AS YOU AND YOURS SPIRIT ARE ONE AND THE SAME THING.My spirit is OF me, Gene.  The being of “Mike” consists of a spirit, soul, and a body.  All of these things make up “Mike”.  You can't say “the spirit OF Mike IS Mike”, because you are leaving other things th…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 03 2013,21:49)Why do you believe the Holy Spirit was not created?The Holy Spirit of God is also called “the finger of God”. How can God be from everlasting, but at some point He CREATED one of His fingers? ???The Holy Spirit is a part of God, not a creation of God.

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    Kerwin,I'm telling you that I was about 80-100 lbs when I was three feet tall. Now I'm almost 6 feet tall, and weigh 175 lbs.The cube root law has a flaw, because I didn't octuple my weight when I doubled my height.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 04 2013,09:12)The root is from the Seed……… how come you can't understand that ?And the seed is from the flower, which is from the branch, which is from the trunk, which is from the root, which is from the seed, which is from the flower……………….. and so on, and so on.So if Paul had said, “The love of…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 04 2013,17:48)Deuteronomy 29:18King James Version (KJV)18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;Good scripture, Kerwin.  The…[Read more]

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    Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 04 2013,06:55)I'd say that the ones who would of seeked revenge were of Abels descendants.But that leaves the question of why would Abel have children and not Cain before the murder? Could it be that Abel was blessed, and not Cain.Hi journey,Why do you assume Abel had children?  He is called “righteous Abel” by both Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2013,02:01)now for the creation. pls read gen 1you can find it thereI can read in Job that the sons of God (angels) were shouting for joy when God created the earth.  So obviously, there were beings already in existence when the creation mentioned in Genesis took place.I'm asking you which BEING you think God created…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2013,02:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 28 2013,08:59)jammin, do you agree with me that ONLY the MOST HIGH God should get the capital “G”?  YES or NO?the capital G should be given to the true God, the most high God and not god. Okay, I agree that the capital “G” should only be given to the Most High God, the One called “the…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,Were you ever going to answer the Kerwin's Hotel Saga question for me?  How about you 2B?  So far, only Gene and I have answered it.Here is the gist of it:If Kerwin tells the front dest clerk that he wants the room HE HAD last year, is he talking about:A.  The room HE HAD last year?B.  The room the hotel had been holding for him since las…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 02 2013,21:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2013,16:27)Quote (abe @ Mar. 02 2013,14:01)Is the Spirit of God part of Jesus?Please   Yes or No??No.  Jesus was filled WITH the Holy Spirit.  God GAVE him the Spirit without measure.  If the Spirit of God was a “part of” Jesus, neither of those things could be said about him.Quote (ab…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 03 2013,09:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2013,11:35)Do you believe it was GOD who was in Jesus?  Or do you believe, like Kerwin and 2B, that it was the “Holy Spirit Son of God” who was in Jesus?Which one, please?2besee and Kerwin are both right , You brother Mike are wrong IMO> Now does that answer you question?No…[Read more]

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