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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,03:25)Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 06 2013,19:15)Hi MikeWhere does it say that there were others in the Land of Nod?Hi Journey42, What Mike is referring to is who are these people Cain is fearful of slewing him?Gen 4..from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,03:15)Hi Mike,The bible clearly says “Adam” was THE FIRST man.Hi Ed,Adam was the first “adam” – a Hebrew word.But even in our society, do we consider Neanterthals to be “homo sapiens”, which we are?My thought is that there possibly were the Hebrew version of Neanderthals living in the land of Nod, but they weren't called…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,05:48)I can say yes to:Quote B.  Ask him which room HE HAD last year, so he could see if that room was available?Well praise Jah everyone!Okay Kerwin, since you finally agree that the words “I HAD” could in fact be referring to something someone actually HAD in the past, please tell me WHY (scripturally speaking)…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,05:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2013,07:54)A.  Start looking in the reservation book, thinking that by the words “I HAD”, Kerwin was talking about a room the hotel had been holding in reserve for him?This is also true but i believe asking takes less work.So to you, the words “the room I HAD last year” mean “the room…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 07 2013,04:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2013,15:41)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 02 2013,14:58)26But THE HELPER, THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHOM THE FATHER WILL SEND IN MY NAME, HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS AND BRING TO YOUR REMEMBERANCE ALL THAT I HAVE SAID TO YOU.Who said those words, 2B?That was Jesus of Nazareth speaking those words.So…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 07 2013,00:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,18:49)Mike says:Quote Isn't it said that God POSSESSES wisdom?  How can God possess HIMSELF?This is a royal example of how Mike talks double talk. When we talk about this verse, talking about 'wisdom':Prov 8:22“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his ac…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 06 2013,21:24)Mike……….speaking physically tell us if I were to remove you DNA you received from your father from you, and supplied another's DNA would you look the same as you now look , YES or NOWould you still be the son of your present father,   YES OR NOI don't know, Gene.  Neither do you.Now please just a…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Mar. 06 2013,20:22)Hi Mike,Acts2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God has made the same Jesus, whom you have crucified, both Lord and Christ.God made him Lord and Christ.Agreed.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,20:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 06 2013,11:18)Lighten up……….I agree with you regarding Mikes behavior at times.Yes, and it is not always as obvious…he's a sneaky one :)Watch yourself, Kathi.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,19:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2013,16:02)Also, I asked you what “mighty hand” and “strong arm” even mean in reference to Jehovah (or anyone else for that matter).  Perhaps you'd like to answer that question?As for Cyrus and Moses, why CAN'T I use them as examples of the same things you claim make Jesus BE the…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,16:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 07 2013,10:46)SON:A son is always a different being than the father who begot him.  A son is never “a part of” the father, as if the being consists of both father and son.Why would I assume anything different in the case of the God in whose image we were all made?Mike for one we cannot…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 06 2013,15:49)Greek…Is finger.But most if not all “commentaries” say it means the power of God.2B,The parallel scripture in Matthew says “Spirit of God”, right?To me, that means Luke's use of “finger of God” is a metaphorical way of saying “Spirit of God”.But perhaps the commentators are correct, and Luke quotes Jesus as…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    I certainly don't think so, Gene.Is there any other such language in scripture (or even secular writings) that quote a person asking for something HE HAD, when he really never actually HAD that thing?Perhaps if you could find such wording in some published work, I would reconsider.But also keep in mind that this is far from being the only…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2013,23:00)we have to work to increase that love for the life giver ,our father and our GodSounds right.

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    Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 05 2013,21:54)With all respect for the name Jehovah, where in the new testament can I find the name Jehovah? In the oldest known fragments of the NT ever found.  Let me know if you want to read about them, and how they contain the name “YHWH” in Hebrew letters mixed into the Greek text.Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 05…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 06 2013,15:09)So Jesus was granted this life and he gives that life to whomever.He even granted the disciples to have life in themselves. And Samuel. And Elijah. And Elisha. :)

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    SON:A son is always a different being than the father who begot him. A son is never “a part of” the father, as if the being consists of both father and son.Why would I assume anything different in the case of the God in whose image we were all made?WORD:Have you ever heard the expression, “You're only as good as your word”? If people actually…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 05 2013,20:41)Mike,There you go again, mistaken.I see Jesus as someone other than the First Power of YHVH obviously, since I see Him as the Second Power of YHVH, not the First Power of YHVH.You are the blind one here.Take the blinders off, Kathi.  Perhaps then you'll stop seeing things that aren't in the scriptures, and…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 05 2013,20:48)Mike, How can the “finger of God” be the Holy Spirit?I can't explain to you WHY Luke quoted Jesus as saying “finger of God”, when Matthew quoted him as saying “Spirit of God” – but the teaching seems to be the same in both books.So I don't believe God's finger is LITERALLY His Spirit, but I believe “finger of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 06 2013,10:28)Abe…………AMEN,  Brother,  it is the spirit of God that makes us his children . For if a person has not the spirit of God  they simply are non of his,  just as it says.Peace and love to you and yours……………………..geneRomans 8:15……..the Spirit you received brought about your ado…[Read more]

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