Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,21:56)Mike,1.  Wisdom is born in the sense of 'brought forth' throughout scripture.2.  Wisdom is not created out of nothing, anywhere in scripture.3.  Wisdom has to be within someone before it can be brought forth, otherwise it is just a good guess.1.  Give me a scripture.2.  Anything that is “born” is also a “cre…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2013,21:03)Mike……..I just never thought abput it that way before , but it makes perfect sense to me It makes perfect sense that both Jesus Christ AND the Holy Spirit are two different “sons of God”?Are you sure?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2013,21:03)Did you not read the post i posted about the Lake water taken…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,21:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,21:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,17:10)MIke says:Quote BASELESS.Really? Show me where Moses existed before and after someone as their foundation and their offspring.Watch him not be able to show me one verse that would demonstrate that Moses is the foundation of someone…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 08 2013,23:50)You get the point? if you still won't believe then you have the other massive issues that you have not addressed, like we baptize in Jesus name.Scripture teaches this and it also teaches us to baptise in the name (singular) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.Yes, I believe I get the point.  It seems like you…[Read more]

Kerwin,Can people be BORN again? YES or NO?

Job 29:16 King James Version I was a father to the poor………….Gene, was Job LITERALLY a father to these poor people he mentioned?  YES or NO?Was he saying he was the Father God? YES or NO?Ed, was Job LITERALLY a father to these poor people he mentioned?  YES or NO?Was he saying he was the Father God? YES or NO?

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,01:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,12:27) Are you both able to read the information from NETNotes, which says the same exact thing? Are you both able to read the actual SCRIPTURES I posted that show clear examples of what I and NETNotes are saying? Hi Mike,I don't read bible commentaries, perhaps that is what is s…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 09 2013,09:50)ARE YOU GOING TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR POINT THAT THE BELOW IS A PROOF THAT THE SON'S SPIRIT WAS CREATED?I know nothing about the creation of the spirit God placed in His firstborn Son, Jesus Christ.Nor do I know whether or not the spirits God places in human beings were created at some point.What I do know is that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:46)There is much more for you to learn about the root and the shoot than a before and after existence, Mike.Then by all means, teach me…………. using SCRIPTURES – not your imagination.

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,19:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,20:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,17:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,16:16)Kathi, am I correct in saying that a father's part in the begetting process is the act of conception?  YES or NO?If…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,19:36)Quote Tell me again how this allows for Jesus to BE the very God who created all things THROUGH him.I never said it did.David and Jesse came from 'Roots' a plural word. One of the Roots also became an offspring of David and Jesse.Note to reader…please see that Mike has once again implied that I said…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,19:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,19:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,17:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,12:36)I spent hours on that showing you so many verses on wisdom in Proverbs and NONE of them supports the idea of a 'created' wisdom but you seem to ignore that,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,17:10)MIke says:Quote BASELESS.Really? Show me where Moses existed before and after someone as their foundation and their offspring.Watch him not be able to show me one verse that would demonstrate that Moses is the foundation of someone and also their offspring.How does this say Jesus IS the very God he is the servant of?

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,17:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,17:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:47) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)I thought I'd introduce you and your ideas to the people here, so they too can know that your claims are usually baseless.You weren't very successful.Well, let's see…………Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,17:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,16:16)Kathi, am I correct in saying that a father's part in the begetting process is the act of conception?  YES or NO?If your answer is “NO”, then please tell us what OTHER parts the father has in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,17:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,12:36)I spent hours on that showing you so many verses on wisdom in Proverbs and NONE of them supports the idea of a 'created' wisdom but you seem to ignore that, you just want to hang your hat on the weak peg-the translators of the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:47) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)I thought I'd introduce you and your ideas to the people here, so they too can know that your claims are usually baseless.You weren't very successful.Well, let's see…………Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,16:47) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)So tell me, which part of these things allows for…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,16:36)Is this passage speaking of mortal life or immortal life?Does a “mortal” body have anything to do with an “immortal” life?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,16:24)Mike,Do others include beasts?If the word “beasts” included everything from rats to great apes, the perhaps it could also included a human-LIKE being, who was not quite “adam”.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,16:17)Are you instead speaking of more intelligent beasts? If so I know of no evidence one way or another.Yes I am, Kerwin. And I also don't know of any evidence one way or the other.I just know that Cain was afraid of “others” – seemingly in the land of Nod, and I can't explain who these “others” were, or how they…[Read more]