Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 12 2013,21:06)Mike,There is NO mention of the Father in my post. It mentions the LORD and the LORD is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. The Lord of the lords is Jesus and the Arm of the LORD. The verse does not say that the Father saw that there was no one. It says that the LORD saw that there was no one. The LORD has…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 11 2013,21:44)I have answered you so many times about how they are not twin brothers. One brother does not beget his own brother…………Oh, so NOW you can understand what the word “beget” implies?    You can understand that a brother doesn't “beget” his own brother, but you can't understand that a father who begets h…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 12 2013,20:36)Mike,The arm of the LORD here is not another person but the LORD's OWN arm.Isaiah 59:16 He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to intervene; so his own arm worked salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him.Kathi,Are you really that slow? Or are your WISHES…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 11 2013,21:44)The Son is the eternal life that WAS WITH the Father. It doesn't say that the Son became the eternal life that began to be with the Father. Eternal life that 'WAS' with the Father in the beginning is eternal in the past. I John 1.Romans 5:21 ……so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 11 2013,21:44)God said that Jesus was the Word that was God and with God.In the country of Abyssinia, the spokeman for the king was called “Kal Hatze” – which means “the Word of the King”.In the scriptures, the main spokesman for God is called “the Word of God”.And yes, this spokesman for God was with God in the beginning,…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,04:49)Daniel refers to an archangel named “Michael”, and some of Daniels prophecy never happened. The BOR refers to a “Michael” who did what Jesus did while on earth.I never even considered that Revelation could be speaking about a DIFFERENT Michael than the one in Daniel.Hmmm…………….. I'll have to take a…[Read more]

Don't be frightened, Daniel. Ed's not mad and yelling at you. He's just a very bold and colorful person.

I bet JA/Istari/Toby would love this thread. He was very big into the fractals of scripture.I'll be back after I find time to watch the show!

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 12 2013,18:45)Mike……..There you go again ignoring the post I posted to you above. That is exactly what I expected you to do brother. Good Gene.  Now keep expecting that same response every OTHER time you bring up this SAME point that I've addressed a hundred times already.    Shall we go to the pre-existent da…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2013,00:05)Mike,Your question is too vague.  In what sense are you using “born”?In the same sense you are using “conceive”.  So answer the question.Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2013,00:05)Can a man stop being so he can be conceived again.Can a man stop being so that he can be the “firstBORN from the dead”?  Or did Jesus re…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,05:15)The OT books, which date to the Babylonian captivity period…………..Hey Colter,I thought about you today while doing my daily Bible reading.Joshua 6:25Yet Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, her father’s family, and all who belonged to her. She lives in Israel to this very day because she hid the m…[Read more]

I always understood “after” to be referring to Numbers 13:33 – which says the offspring of the Nephilim were STILL around – even after the flood.There are SO many questions, but like t8 said, we are obviously not meant to know it all.Even angels long to look into some of these things.  (1 Peter 1:12)Jesus, explaining his parables, said to the…[Read more]

Okay Gene.So if we all agree that Jesus can be called “everlasting father” (WITHOUT meaning his is THE Father God in heaven), and he can be called “mighty god” (WITHOUT meaning he is the ALMIGHTY God in heaven) – then we should have no problem agreeing that Isaiah 9:6 IS an accurate prophecy about Jesus, right?

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2013,17:43)Hi Mike,Doesn't it disturb you that “WISDOM” is spoken of as a “She” rather than a “He”?”Spirit” is also spoken of as a “She” and wisdom is justified of all her children.From Wiki:……the grammatical gender of the word “spirit” is masculine in Latin (“spiritus”) and in Latin-derived languages, as also, for…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2013,17:59)…and it's God's HolySpirit that makes us son's of God. (ref. Rom 8:15)God's Holy Spirit? Or God? Oh that's right, to you they are one and the same.I still find it fascinating how you insist the Holy Spirit IS God, but then write “God's Holy Spirit”. It's like you are saying “God's God”. …

Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 12 2013,09:43)Additionally, I believe I can discern between doctrine that supports my beliefs or not, but my children have yet to develop their beliefs; and so, I do not want their growing minds corrupted. Does that make sense?You'd be surprised how easily the truth of the scriptures comes to children, jb.My 11 year old son's…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2013,17:04)Hi jb2u,How long have you been a christian for?Ed,What are you ending your sentence in a preposition for?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2013,03:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,07:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 10 2013,13:28)Oh brother! If wisdom is given at any time, it is brought forth from within.You didn't say “given”.  You said “born”.  Show me a scripture that says wisdom was born.Mike,Do you want the literal words or will the idea do?Show what you g…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 12 2013,10:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2013,18:09)Are Jesus and the Holy Spirit STILL separate sons of God, now that Jesus is in heaven?  Or have they somehow merged into the original Holy Spirit Son?He married her.Peace brother…………Where are you seeing a “her”, Abe? I'm only seeing what I think are two SONS of God,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 12 2013,04:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,15:27)Kerwin, do you believe the Holy Spirit is ONE Son of God, and Jesus is a completely DIFFERENT Son of God?Mike,Your question is vague.  What do you mean by “Son “?As for me, the Holy Spirit is the Son of God in the same sense Wisdom is the Daughter of God.Okay Kerwin. So is…[Read more]