Quote (2besee @ Mar. 16 2013,17:56)When you or anyone else says that John 1:1 is not about the “One God” but is rather about “Two Gods”, then I correspond what you are saying with Genesis 1:1 which is also “In the Beginning” – and I see it as fickle.There is more than one “beginning” in scriptures, 2B.  Also, God said, “Let US create man in OUR…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 16 2013,08:40)I do not claim to be a great mind or a Bible scholar……….Seems to me that you've got a good handle on what the scriptures actually teach.  Good post, and good use of scriptures to support your understanding.

Origen’s Commentary on the Gospel of John, Book II, 2“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. (1)He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the name of theos…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2013,07:57)T8 and all,Adam was THE Adam is right.Adam was adam is right.Okay Kerwin,In the beginning was Cain.  And Cain was with THE adam, and Cain was adam.Is this also correct?ABE, this question is also for you.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2013,03:47)It does not say God was with God; though many gods were with God in the beginning.Kerwin, if you can easily acknowledge that many gods were with God in the beginning, why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Jesus was one of them?Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2013,03:47)It states the Word was God and was with God.…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 16 2013,16:17)I have question for u boy. Your father is truly human, arent u a truly human?Yes jammin,My father is truly human BECAUSE he belongs to the SPECIES known as “mankind”. I am truly human because I too belong to that SPECIES.Now what?

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 12 2013,21:14)1. Yes, the Son is an example of eternal life and that example was with the Father in the beginning. 2. He didn't begin to be an example of eternal life, He always was that.I agree with #1, but I haven't ever seen a scripture that supports #2. In fact, there are many scriptures that argue against #2.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 16 2013,09:48)Mike just like saying Jesus is a ” little” god, never makes him a big God or a little god either .So you're saying that even though SCRIPTURE calls Jesus a god, he's not?   Hmmmm…………..  Well, if you are okay arguing with the scriptures, there is nothing more I can do for you.Quote (Gene Balthrop @…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2013,14:15)God has the power to make 1 billion years pass in a earth night and day and none would know the difference.Another good point.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2013,07:17)Technically each and every man on earth is descended from Adam. The link you speak of is already established by that fact alone.Good point, Kerwin.  Why “invent” a flood story to link Abraham to Adam, when, even according to the UB, Adam was the first human on earth, and all other humans, including Abraham, are…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 16 2013,04:31)Please see the life of Jesus, that's how a mature Son of God acts.And so it is your claim that God only created perfect, “mature” sons?How then do you explain Satan – or the other ones that your UB says rebelled against God?

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 16 2013,04:12)The Adam & Eve story as well as his descendants was already known outside of Judaism. They couldn't whack off his descendants, they had to fill the gap. ColterWell, according to the OT, Noah is only the 10th from Adam.  And that surely doesn't add up to 39,000 years of offspring, right?So flood or not, the OT…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 16 2013,04:09)I bring up the naked drunk issue because “supposedly” Noah was the only righteous man in all the world.And? Was it considered “unrighteous” to be drunk and naked in your own tent?NOAH SAID:Hey guys, these floods are getting larger every year. Don't you think we should make our homes floatable, just in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2013,00:29)The sons of God, Israel, noticed that the daughters of men, Gentiles, were good looking…………So the daughters of the Hebrew people were NOT “daughters of adam“?How can this be, if the Hebrews were descendants of Adam?Even if you don't believe the book of Enoch is legit, the story of the angels mating with…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 16 2013,11:38)AND IN THE SAME INSTANT GAVE KNOWLEDGE, MADE KNOWN, THAT  CONJCOINED  WITH THE FATHER ,BOTH GOD AND JESUS CHRIST ARE MANIFESTED AS  THE ONLY TRUE GOD. THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT!  DO YOU AGREE???No Charles,I don't agree that Christ and God together are the only true God.  Jesus doesn't agree either, because he i…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 14 2013,14:36)JESUS CONFIRMED NOT ONLY THAT THE FATHER IS:THE ONLY TRUE GOD, BUT ALSO THAT THE FATHER BECAME SO,CONJOINED WITH JESUS CHRIST.No he didn't, Charles.  Jesus confirmed that eternal life is the taking in of knowledge of the only true God (which is both our God AND his God) – and also taking in of knowledge of the…[Read more]

Kerwin,I fail to see how your post addresses my post. The sons of God noticed that the daughters of men were good looking, and so took some of them and procreated with them.How could these words be said about HUMAN men?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2013,17:54)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 05 2013,15:39)Mike,Quote So if Paul had said, “The love of money is the seed of all kinds of evil”, we would understand that the love of money came first, and the product of that love of money is all kinds of evil.I have always perceived that greed itself is an evil.Okay Kerwin.But Gene…[Read more]

Amen to Kerwin's and Gene's posts.

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,04:20)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,16:31)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 15 2013,13:10)Gosh, t8, all of those “theos/gods”!!Yes, I was an Arian myself, once (not too long ago).He is teaching the Greek usage of theos. It can be applied to the Most High, Angels, Men, Satan, idols, etc.You can't change Greek, you can only accept it and…[Read more]