jammin,I answered your first question.  Now answer MY first question BEFORE you ask me another, okay?Here it is again:  I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”?   YES or NO?

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2013,10:40)It doesn't say how old Cain and Abel are.  They lived long lives in those days.  Plenty of time to have more children.Hi journey,This is where my questions come in.  (Remember, I don't have the ANSWERS, only lots of QUESTIONS.   )For example, if Cain and Abel lived a LONG time before Cain killed Abel, then why…[Read more]

Charles, it is not my job to prove a negative.  It is YOUR job to prove the positive.Job 6:6 doesn't say anything about death at all.  Nor do I see any indication that it is about Jesus.  Nor are there any words in that verse that discuss different kinds of death.Like I said, try again.

Gene, you are blowing it. I hear you talking, but you're not really saying anything.Here is what I'm looking for:1. Scripture(s) that clearly teach that the Holy Spirit is the Son of God.2. An explanation as to how this “Son of God” could BE the very God he was WITH in the beginning.Do you now understand the mission set before you, Gene?…[Read more]

Kathi,I feel for you on this one, because I've been there many times before with Kerwin. He will simply not give up. It is easy for anyone to see that he is unable to find the actual ROOT of anyone in the Bible who didn't come BEFORE the ones he was the root OF. “A branch OF her roots” is not the same as her saying, “I AM the root of so and…[Read more]

I did not see the gorilla while I was counting! What a trip! Oh, and I only counted 13 passes, not 15.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 27 2013,11:58)The singular does not contradict the plural. Nor does the use of the plural of majesty to speak of the one Almighty God contradict the fact that Jesus quoted that scripture as a singular “God”.Nor does your original claim even work for you UNLESS you are now claiming that we have MORE THAN ONE Almighty…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2013,00:03)Notice that in Isaiah 63, the person with the robe claims that his own arm brought salvation to him, his own wrath sustained him.Okay. And how exactly does this make Jesus BE the Almighty God he is the servant of?It is already clear from John that Jesus was the arm of the Lord who accomplished at least one…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2013,00:03)The word 'will' is not a good translation since the word 'tread' is in the present indicative active and not in the future tense. In both cases, the blood shed was pre-battle it seems. After the battle, His garments are covered with more blood, the blood of the kings and their armies.It seems obvious to me…[Read more]

John 1:1 2BV (2B's Version) In the beginning was the HOLY SPIRIT SON OF GOD, and the HOLY SPIRIT SON OF GOD was with God, and the HOLY SPIRIT SON OF GOD was God.I guess first up on the agenda will be 2B, Kerwin, and Gene offering their scriptures that say the Holy Spirit of God is the Son of God.Next will be their explanations as to how this “Son…[Read more]

The italicized words below are things said about “the Word” in John 1.  The scriptures listed in parenthesis identify some of the places in scripture where those same exact things are said about Jesus.1.  And the Word was a god:  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)2.  He was with God in the beginning:  (John 17:5)3.  All things were made through him:  (Col…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,10:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2013,23:03)The point of my exercise is that ALL of the things said about the Word in John 1 are also said about Jesus in other scriptures.  That isn't the case with “the Most High God” and “the Son of the Most High God”, is it?In some verses it is.You are missing the point.  All t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,00:40)Bump for Mike.Sorry Kathi.  I will tend to this ASAP.  My time has been limited lately due to family and work.  

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 26 2013,21:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,12:45)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 20 2013,03:54)the father told us that the son is GodThe Father did tell us that the Son would be called a mighty god.  Satan is also a mighty god, jammin.And in Hebrews 1, Paul attributes a Psalm to Jesus, in which the subject is called “god”.  But a…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 27 2013,01:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2013,14:50)Okay.  Then show me ONE of those scriptures, that say Jesus died in a different way than all other men die.NOW READ:DRB Job 6:6 Or can an unsavoury thing be eaten, that is not seasoned with salt? OrCAN A MAN TASTE THAT WHICH WHEN TASTED BRINGETH DEATH? Charles,That…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 26 2013,18:39)1: Wisdom is defined as a female Hi Daniel,The following is from Wiki:If by “gender” is meant grammatical gender, the gender of “Holy Spirit” varies according to the language used. Thus the grammatical gender of the word “spirit” is masculine in Latin (“spiritus”) and in Latin-derived languages, as also, for…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2013,01:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,20:14)I believe the Tatian quote is showing how the Father did not become less when He begat from Himself another person, like how one flame can start another flame without becoming less than it was before. It is the idea of being fruitful by multiplying, not fruitful by dividing and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2013,23:06)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Because the scriptures I know about speak of Jesus having origins “from days of old”, and being the “firstborn of every creature”, and being “the beginning of the creation by God”, etc.And you do not understand ANY of those things accurately, imo.Kathi,I just follow the rule YOU taught me…[Read more]

Quote (Jeremy @ Mar. 26 2013,20:43)I was in a wilderness all alone which was how I was feeling, the mountains where all the different churches in the world and then the paths where all straight paths which would have lead me straight to one of the church`s, but not one path was different to the other, but then I was told without a word being said…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 27 2013,13:07)I have asked you not to argue with me, but I thank you for leading me to share this with those that may be in the dark.Hey t8,Does that sound familiar?    Without the impetus (Kathi), those brilliant words would have never been written by jb.jb, I very rarely read long posts.  I just skim over them quickly.  B…[Read more]