Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:23)John 14:15“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.John 1…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:18)Galatians 4:6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”(The Holy Spirit was sent)See my recent response to Kerwin on this same verse.

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:16)Hebrews 9:13For if the blood of goats and bulls, and the sprinkling of defiled persons with the ashes of a heifer, sanctify for the purification of the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:14)2 Cor 3:17We all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.You could use this one…………. IF you believed that Jesus and the Holy Spirit were both one and the same “Son of…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:12)John 3:6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.Doesn't say one single thing about the Holy Spirit being the Son of God.

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 29 2013,16:09)1Cor 2:11For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.Matthew 11:27All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except t…[Read more]

Well I'm glad to see you're addressing me personally again – instead of asking Gene what I think. Kerwin, the question makes no sense. Proof read it and see if you can correct it.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2013,12:06)Romans 8:15King James Version (KJV)15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.Kerwin, where exactly does this scripture say the “Spirit of adoption” IS the “Son of God”?  And even if you really stretched these words…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 29 2013,08:15)So can't you see in a real “SENSE” the Holy Spirit can be call the son of GOD, if it “DWELLS “in YOU then you are made a Son of GOD by that Sprit Dwelling in you.Gene,I think you are saying that the Spirit of God can METAPHORICALLY be called “the son of God” in the way that wisdom can METAPHORICALLY be…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 28 2013,22:02)Hi Mike,What did Jesus receive from the Father?  What do you say the Holy Spirit is?Peace brother.Jesus received the promised Holy Spirit from the Father, Abe. Are you saying one Son of God received a different Son of God from the Father? As to your second question, it is hard to put the answer into words.…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 29 2013,02:10)The early manuscripts of Jude 5:5Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that JESUS, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.NetBible says that the “Jesus” reading in verse 5 has the strongest support and that the scribes changed it to…[Read more]

jammin,Here are the possible answers to my question:1.  Yes Mike, God is a SPECIES, of which the Father and Son are both members.2.  No Mike, God is not a SPECIES, and therefore my attempt to compare the nature of humans, who ARE all members of the same species, with God, who is a PERSON and NOT a species, is a big waste of time that proves n…[Read more]

jammin,Is someone forcing you to “waste your time” in this thread? If not, then please don't try to dictate which scriptural subjects hold an interest for other people, okay?

Well jammin,I see a bunch of childish insults, but no answers to my questions.1. Is it true that you believe Jesus is God Almighty simply because many English translators cap the “G” in God when the word refers to Jesus? YES or NO?2. Was the “G” capped in the original mss? YES or NO?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2013,00:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 29 2013,08:57)Gene and Kerwin, in Alex Haley's best selling novel “Roots”, did the author research his ANCESTORS?  Or his DESCENDANTS?  Which of these two did he refer to as his “ROOTS”?Mike,Who are Jesus' children?Jesus doesn't have any LITERAL children of his own.  He is ME…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2013,06:20)Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2013,12:32)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,20:50)Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2013,11:20)Everyone on here uses biblecc, I would suspect?It's very good for comparing bibles and seeing original languages.DavidWhat is biblecc???Biblecc.comOnline parallel bible.  Good for comparing many bibles and…[Read more]

Quote (Jeremy @ Mar. 30 2013,08:09)To me its clear that Jesus has free will to choose to stay in the will of God or go against him, otherwise why would Satan have tried to tempt him.Good point, Jeremy. God created all of His sons with a free will. He apparently did not want robots who were hardwired to serve Him no matter what.Apparently, it is…[Read more]

I'm not reading anything like that from the verse you posted, Abe. Point out for me which exact words should be telling me that the Holy Spirit of God is the Son of God………… because I'm surely not seeing it.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 27 2013,11:47)God was “the Rock,” Then Paul identified the Rock that “went with them” as “the Christ.”Christ named Simon “Rock”, didn't he?  Do you suppose this means that Peter WAS Jesus?  (Or does this kind of nonsensical reasoning only apply to God and His servant, Jesus Christ?)Jack, don't forget that it was an a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 24 2013,11:17)Mike ……T8 or you hav enot answered Me Honestly, I ask if ther ewas a “scripture that says Jesus Christ PREEXISTED HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH AS A LIVING BEING A simple Yes or No answer would sufficeYes Gene. There are many of them.I will begin to go through them one at a time if you want me to. But only…[Read more]