Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:17)David is a root and branch of Jesse.Show me in scripture that David is a root of Jesse.  In fact, show me from ANY WRITING that a son is the “root OF” his own father.Jesse is the root OF David. This means Jesse existed BEFORE David did.The love of money is the root OF all kinds of evil. For the purposes of…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 22 2013,15:09)No Ed, that wasn't “scripture” when Paul said it, he was talking about the OT, and it's just Paul's opinion.But Jesus said similar things, Colter. He even said that not one letter of the Law and the Prophets will pass away without being fulfilled, right?Isn't this the same Law and Prophets that you say was made…[Read more]

Okay fellers, I'm doing my best to field all of your questions – even the ones that don't have anything to do with this discussion.And it has become painfully clear to me that not one of you is able to produce even one little scripture that even HINTS at the Holy Spirit of God being called a Son of God.Nor has any of you been able to explain to me…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 31 2013,16:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2013,05:37)Do you agree with the shepherd that it was God's SON who was in Jesus, doing the works?  Or do you believe like the scriptures say, that it was God who was in Jesus, doing the works?Mike …….God's spirit is what produces his sons and it is his very own spirit,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 31 2013,15:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2013,05:46)Quote (abe @ Mar. 31 2013,12:24)Hi Mike,Is the Spirit of God?    God Himself?Please  Yes or No?Nope.Mike………..wrong again, Jesus said, God is “A” Spirit  and must be “spiritually perceived . To say the spirit of GOD is not God, is  to deny God can live “in”…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 31 2013,15:24)Mike……..like a marriage , the women gives herself to her husband and they are considered one flesh , but we know they are not really one flesh but are considered as one flesh .So Jesus and the “Holy Spirit Son of God” got married, Gene? But they are really still TWO different sons of God living in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:47)I brought is up because Paul chose to refer to the Spirit of the Son within him as the Son.Which scripture?Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:47)I brought it up because the Son in Jesus is also recorded as saying Abba Father.Scripture, please?Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:47)Students are adopted sons as they have…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:34)Mike,Do you believe that God tents in a believer by his Spirit?I believe that God, who in reality dwells in heaven, can metaphorically dwell within believers via His Holy Spirit.So I guess my answer to your question is “Yes”.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:31)Mike,Is your spirit with you?Is your spirit you?No. And No.

Hey journey,This is a snippet from Colter's “Urantia Book”, quoted in a different thread:That the earlier traditions recognized pre-Adamic civilization is clearly shown by the fact that later editors, intending to eradicate all reference to human affairs before Adam’s time, neglected to remove the telltale reference to Cain’s emigration to the “la…[Read more]

I'm not sure why, Abe.  If the entire being of Mike is a creation, then it stands to reason that the hand OF Mike is also a creation – since it is a part OF the entire being of Mike, right?So, if the entire being of God Almighty is NOT a creation, but has always existed, then it likewise stands to reason that all parts OF that eternally existing…[Read more]

Kathi, I quoted a person from a different theology forum.Let me ask you this:Is my point made null and void because the guy I quoted didn't specifically say Hebrew has only female and male, while Greek has female, male, and neuter?Of course not. So while I thank you for pointing out that tiny detail, it doesn't change the point of my post one…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 31 2013,12:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,10:46)Quote (abe @ Mar. 31 2013,12:24)Hi Mike,Is the Spirit of God?    God Himself?Please  Yes or No?Nope.Hi Mike,Didn't  you tell me the Spirit of God is uncreated?Yep.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,13:08)instead of my understanding which isAnd again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and my children which God hath given me.Kerwin,What would you think if David told God, “I will solemnly protect the children of Israel you gave me to look after”?I don't agree with your understanding of Hebrews 2:13.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2013,23:24)………i didn't ignore it for some trick. I just spoke about what I thought was his main point. I don't have time to always address everything………….And by His simple will the Word sprang forth……… became the firstbegotten work of the Father…………. we know to be the Beginning of the world…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2013,23:19)Jesus was without beginning of days. Hebrews 7.He is without father or mother or genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest forever.So you believe Jesus actually IS Melchizadek?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,11:07) A man can be both a root and a branch in a family tree because he can be both a father and a child of the family. Do you hear that, Kathi?  Kerwin indeed understands the simple concept that the “root” is the “father”, while the “branch” represents the “child”.So he DOES understand it, but will continue to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,10:25)T8,Scripture states we are Jesus' children as well as his brothers.Hebrews 2:13King James Version (KJV)13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.Jesus refers to the children OF GOD that God gave to him out of this world:John 17:6I have revealed you to…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 31 2013,12:24)Hi Mike,Is the Spirit of God? God Himself?Please Yes or No?Nope.

Quote (abe @ Mar. 31 2013,11:16)received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost,You are saying Jesus received God HIMSELF.You should ask that question of 2B, Abe. HE is the one who says the “god” in part c of John 1:1 is the very “God” he was with. HE is the one who says the Holy Spirit OF God IS the very God it is OF.Pierre and…[Read more]