Quote (abe @ April 01 2013,20:33)Hi Mike,How about the word of Mike?I would depend, Abe. If we were just speaking about words that I spoke, then that is all they are: WORDS THAT I SPOKE. There is no secret meaning there. My words are not me. They are not a part of my being. They are simply things I say.On the other hand, if I was the King of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2013,12:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2013,07:07)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:17)David is a root and branch of Jesse.Show me in scripture that David is a root of Jesse.  In fact, show me from ANY WRITING that a son is the “root OF” his own father.Mike,Do you understand the way of speech where you call a family group…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 01 2013,00:58)SO HE DIDN'T DIE LIKE WE DO!ALTHOUGH IT SEEMED SO!Charles,All I'm saying is that scripture NEVER makes a distinction between the way Jesus died, and the way the rest of us die.In fact, Paul clearly says that if Jesus didn't really die, and wasn't really raised from that death, then none of us will be raised from…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 01 2013,05:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2013,12:12)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 22 2013,15:09)No Ed, that wasn't “scripture” when Paul said it, he was talking about the OT, and it's just Paul's opinion.But Jesus said similar things, Colter.  He even said that not one letter of the Law and the Prophets will pass away without being…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,19:07) It's time to move on with John 1…………..2 He was with God in the beginning.Okay, first we must decide who exactly the “God” is in this verse.  I vote that the one called “God” is “THE ENTIRE BEING OF GOD ALMIGHTY”.Does anyone here disagree with me on this point?  Speak now, or forever hold your pe…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2013,11:40)Why are you turning the table on me…………you do not answer the question ,but go on as if my questions becomes yoursAgreed.Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2013,11:40)The fact that Christ is resurrected  from the dead it does not make him the holy spirit ,right ?I'd like to hear Abe's answer as well.

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2013,11:10)Mike,1) The Son is a metaphor of the Spirit's relationship to Jehovah as there is but one God.2) Jesus being the Son is also a metaphor of his relationship to Jehovah.Kerwin, 1) There is no hint in any scripture that God's Holy Spirit is considered or called His “son” – metaphorically or literally.2) Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2013,10:58)Given that is the Son in Paul, as written of in Galatians 1:16, Jesus or the Spirit?Galatians 1:16King James Version (KJV)16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:Galatians 1:16 NET ©to reveal his Son in 1  me so that I could p…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 31 2013,20:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,12:09)I'm not sure why, Abe.  If the entire being of Mike is a creation, then it stands to reason that the hand OF Mike is also a creation – since it is a part OF the entire being of Mike, right?So, if the entire being of God Almighty is NOT a creation, but has always existed, then…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 31 2013,20:12)There is nothing difficult here Mike.There is also nothing that says the Holy Spirit of God is God's Son, Gene. When you find a scripture that DOES say that – hit me up, okay?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2013,14:17)David is a root and branch of Jesse.Show me in scripture that David is a root of Jesse.  In fact, show me from ANY WRITING that a son is the “root OF” his own father.Kerwin?

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2013,14:44)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2013,02:32)To all,Ephesians 1:5King James Version (KJV)5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,KEph 1:5 NIVhe predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his…[Read more]

That's close to how I understand it, Pierre.  But the fact is that the Pharisees WERE INDEED literal children of Abraham.  They were literally the descendants of Abraham, and therefore his children.Jesus' point was, You guys sure don't act like righteous Abraham, so how do you have the audacity to claim him as your father?Of course, Jesus said i…[Read more]

(4)  Now there are many who are sincerely concerned about religion, and who fall here into great perplexity. They are afraid that they may be proclaiming two theos and their fear drives them into doctrines which are false and wicked.Who here refuses to accept John 1:1 the way it was written, due to a fear that John was proclaiming two different…[Read more]

Gene,Did you post this in the wrong thread?

Jack,Have you now concluded that the Father and Son are two different gods?

I believe there were “others” before Adam was created as the first “adam”.

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 31 2013,15:00)Why JESUS( the grain of a wheat) would have remained ALONE UNLESS HE DIED?Through death, Jesus gave us the right to become sons of God, “born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.” (John 1:12-13)In that way, one kernel (son of God) was able to die and produce many k…[Read more]

I think I understand what you're saying, jammin.I believe you are telling me I'm a moron unless I believe that the Son of our one and only Almighty God actually IS the very one and only Almighty God that he is the Son of.May that Son OF God someday rebuke you for your words of hate, and your spreading of unscriptural lies.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 31 2013,19:28)do you agree that WE HAVE THE SAME NATURE, HUMAN?after you answer mine, ill answer yours I'll believe it when I see it.Here is my answer. I must write it in a way that you can't clip it and say, “thanks for your answer”. Hmmm…………….All members of the SPECIES known as “humankind” share a “human”…[Read more]