Quote (jammin @ April 05 2013,21:58)i also believe that his father is his God. there is nothing wrong with that.You believe that ONLY the Father is his God, right?

No, actually I believe MY LORD, jammin. HE is the one who told me that my God (and I only have ONE God, right?) was also HIS God.If my ONE and ONLY God is also his ONE and ONLY God, then there is no chance that HE is my God, is there? (Unless of course Jesus is the God of HIMSELF! And I don't think that sounds very sensible, do you?)

Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.

Quote (terraricca @ April 04 2013,22:21)So God almighty would be greater than his own creation………I know the scripture that says the universe cannot contain God.  I believe many people understand that to mean God is BIGGER than the entire universe.  I don't understand it that way.  I believe it means that God CAN go anywhere He wants to go -…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 05 2013,04:55)Quote (t8 @ April 05 2013,13:58)Similarly, we can say that Jesus existed in the form of man/adam. But we cannot say that he was Adam, Eve's husband. Rather that he partook of Adam's form, that is flesh.Form and identity are not to be confused.do you exist in the form of MAN?jammin, t8 is trying to explain to you…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 05 2013,04:56)6 Who, being in very nature God,Sorry sunshine. Even if we were to translate “morphe” as “nature”, the verse would say that Jesus was existing in, or with the nature of God.There is no way the Greek words could be HONESTLY translated as you've shown.And even your extremely biased and flawed translation still…[Read more]

So like I said, you worship the God of Jesus…….. PLUS other persons.I worship only the same God that Jesus himself worshipped. I try to emulate my Lord and Savior.

Quote (jammin @ April 05 2013,05:00)i also worship the God of Jesus but i also worship……..Your own words testify against you, jammin.Jesus said that his God was our God. He did not say that his God – AND ALSO THIS OTHER ONE – was our God, did he?See the difference between us? I worship the same God Jesus worshiped. I do as my Lord did – to…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 05 2013,06:56)……why do you concede imperfection of the RCC priest class but not the Hebrew priest class who compiled, redacted and edited the OT books?Jesus vouched for the words in the OT, Colter. He did not vouch for the words of any later writers.

Quote (TimothyVI @ April 05 2013,13:04)No contemperary person or historian ever seems to have heard of him.Huh?

Quote (kerwin @ April 05 2013,14:36)Are you going to deny or concede that men live by the Word that proceeds out of Jehovah's mouth?I will concede EVERYTHING that is written in scripture, Kerwin. That is a silly question to ask me, since it is CLEARLY written in scripture, and was said by Jesus himself.Now, do YOU understand that the phrase “the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 05 2013,10:48)If God says there is no other God besides Me , Mike says that is emphatic, not to be taken literally………..Jehovah said there were no other ELOHIM besides him, right?  Well Gene, ARE THERE other ELOHIM mentioned in the scriptures?  Of course there are MANY – just like Paul says in 1 Cor 8:5, r…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2013,07:58)Hi Mike, I see you're reading into the text again.”But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks,  Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.” (1Cor 1:24)Perhaps I should have added verse 23, Ed:1 Corinthians 123 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ April 05 2013,05:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2013,12:17)2B,Why do you think the spirit who is guiding you would cause you to come to an understanding which requires a “part of” God to be the “entire being of God”?Have you tested this spirit against your God-given common sense and scripture?Mike,Yes I have. I know the…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 04 2013,21:03)“He who has the BRIDE is the bridegroom; The Spirit is the Bride.The “Bride” is New Jerusalem. (Rev 21:9-10)But even if we accepted that the bride was the Holy Spirit, John STILL WASN'T testifying ABOUT the bride, was he? Instead, he was testifying ABOUT the bridegroom, and how the bridegroom must i…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 04 2013,21:03)……..the same said to me, On whom you shall see the SPIRIT descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizes with the Holy Ghost. 34And I saw, and bore record that this is the Son of God.So in that passage, who exactly is John testifying about, Abe?….the same is he who baptizes…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2013,20:45)You find a way to translate and interpret according to what you want to believe and discount other interpretations.Kerwin,Read my last post to you in the “Origen” thread.  And then go back a few pages in this thread, find my final “Jesus/Word”comparison post, and see how EVERY SINGLE THING that is said about…[Read more]

Kerwin and t8, what did you guys think about that UB quote?That the earlier traditions recognized pre-Adamic civilization is clearly shown by the fact that later editors, intending to eradicate all reference to human affairs before Adam’s time, neglected to remove the telltale reference to Cain’s emigration to the “land of Nod,” where he took hi…[Read more]

Yes Kerwin and 2B, I read the Wiki page on him.But I'm asking only about his writing about John 1:1 – the reason for this very thread, remember?  I'm asking you both to take note that a very learned scholar of scripture, who read and wrote in the same language in which the scriptures were written, came to the conclusion that “the Word” was indeed…[Read more]