Quote (t8 @ April 10 2013,15:46)Also, we criticize the idea of applying the idea of reading John 1:1c as 'the Word was THE God', even though the definite article is not there. But should the same criticism be leveled at 'a god' as well. After all that is also not there technically speaking.Well, all you have to do is go through the entire…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 10 2013,01:58)In English we may understand that he is being called 'a god', but technically speaking, he is being called THE God if that translation is correct. And which God is that? The begotten one.Kathi recently pointed out the obvious fact that anyone who is called “THE god” in any context, must, by necessity be “A god”.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 09 2013,21:20)For those reason it does not make sens to deviate John,s word,s to make them mean other things than what he really meant,about Jesus Christ ,Agreed. That's why I don't do that.

Quote (t8 @ April 09 2013,20:38)Thanks Mike. I feel like we will cover much more ground and learn stuff compared to debating those who just regurgitate the same stuff. This is kinda what I prefer.Fantastic.  Quote (t8 @ April 09 2013,20:38)Before I start to reply, I should first just say that I do not follow what you are saying in the last…[Read more]

I watched the first two parts, then ran out of time. I look forward to seeing the rest over the next couple of weeks.

Quote (Colter @ April 08 2013,18:45)Hi Mike,In short, the Jews still had their law after Jesus established the kingdom of heaven. Not one letter fell from it.Matthew 517 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth d…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2013,18:33)The two words used for LORD and Lord are two completely “different” words,  They have two complete different meanings. Gene, you are confused.  The word often translated as “LORD”, with all caps, is the Hebrew word “YHWH”.  It does not mean “lord” – in any sense of the word.  It is instead God's per…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ April 08 2013,23:17)Yes I hear what you are saying Mike.  The same with me in the prophecy section.So you are confirming your own understanding on a DEEPER level due to the ones who understand things differently?  Isn't that a good thing?  You are learning even more scriptures that back your understanding, right?  Isn't it goo…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 08 2013,20:51)Well if a person has enough common sense, insight, wisdom,  knowledge, and have no predefined belief to get in the way, they may understand it correctly. But John 1:1c has had centuries of man-made ideas applied to it and in the minds of most, it is tainted by the Trinity Doctrine. Thus when they hear, “Jesus is a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 08 2013,20:51)If I was going to single one of them out, then could I then say that Eve was a adam? Well according to what Kathi points out, no, you would say that Eve was the Adam, or Eve was a particular person of the human race.Yes, you could definitely say that Eve was an “adam”.  But let's not muck it up with genders.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2013,14:41)t8, is Jesus a god – according to many scriptures?  YES or NO?Quote (t8 @ April 08 2013,20:51)Technically speaking “Jesus is theos”, not “a theos”.John 1:18 NWT18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom with the Father is the one that has explained him.In the above v…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2013,08:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2013,10:22)Jehovah is also the God OF gods, right?  Who are some of those other gods that Jehovah is the God OF, Gene?Mike………They are false Gods created by the minds of men.Deuteronomy 10:17 For Jehovah your God is God of gods and Lord of lords…………Is that what…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 09 2013,14:27)SO ONLY WHO IS IN THE TRUTH, AND TO WHOM THE SON OF MAN WANTS TO REVEAL IT,WOULD SEE IT!I could say the same thing, Charles, but it wouldn't prove anything, right?For example, I could say that Judges 2:4 proves that Jesus is a polka dotted unicorn, and that this “truth” of scripture is only revealed to the ones…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 09 2013,14:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2013,12:38)Charles, does Rev 3:12 clearly show that Jesus and his God have two different names?  YES or NO? Mike,NOW THE NEW NAME WOULD BE  BOTH GOD'S THE FATHER AND JESUS' SINCE THEY ARE UNITED AS ONE TRUE GOD.But see how you're still talking about ONE name? Why would you do that w…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 09 2013,13:19)ACCORDING TO YOU HE IS NOT CAPABLE TO TRANSFORM HIMSELF AS MEDIATOR IN ORDER TO ACCEPT USI never said “not capable”, Charles.  But the scriptures teach us the God SENT His Son – not that God Himself came.Quote (carmel @ April 09 2013,13:19)WHO IS THIS SUPER MEDIATOR  WHO IS IN FULL  AUTHORITY AND  WITHOUT HIM…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2013,19:40)Mike,Yes, though all the rest become the Word made flesh through him.So then after the rest of us become “The Word-Made-Flesh” along with Jesus, will it also be said of us that all things in heaven and earth were created through us – like it is said of Jesus?And since you believe the Word actually IS the God it…[Read more]

I wasn't saying Jesus was “Self-Made”, Kerwin.I was trying to find a different phrase that identifies how you are understanding “The Word-Made-Flesh”.Perhaps you could give me an example. Are you understanding it as a title for Jesus? Or are you saying that the Word MADE/CREATED flesh?Please help me to know how you understand those words – so I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 05 2013,19:37)It sounds like Cain was already married.Why do you suppose they had no children until they moved to the land of Nod?

Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2013,11:42)There is no purpose to create humanoids with no conscience.Only man in the image of God can have a conscience.Only man in the image of God can make a choice between good and evil.Actually Wakeup, Didn't God create man “without a conscience” – as you put it?Man didn't know good from evil UNTIL he ate of the tree…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ April 07 2013,08:24)Hi MikeIf you guys have been going on about this subject for years now, do you think anyone is going to budge?  Has anyone made any progress?Iron sharpens iron, journey.  90% of my scriptural rebuttals of the Trinity Doctrine came from my debates with Kathi, Worshipping Jesus, and Kangaroo Jack.All three a…[Read more]