Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2013,11:24)Why doesn't it read The Logos was created in the very beginning if the Spirit desires to impart that information?It does……… in other scriptures. (Col 1:15, Rev 3:14, Prov 8:22-25, etc.)

Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2013,11:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 14 2013,08:50)Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2013,01:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2013,09:56)Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2013,23:11)Again they seem clearly inferred by the context.Now, in John 1:1, there are also three possibilities – EACH ONE OF THEM accurate based solely on grammar.  Those…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2013,11:24)This is my understanding The Utterance existed in the very beginning,the Utterance was with God,the Utterance was divine.The noun form is here used, not the adjectival theios, which would be required to simply classify the Word as “god-like.” – Kittel's Theological Dictionary of the New Testament

Quote (jammin @ April 13 2013,16:52)LOLdont you know how to use math?ok ill give a kindergarten example sunshine you and your father = 2that is 1 +1 =2That's right, jammin. Kerwin + his father = 2 LIVING BEINGS.Why do you suppose you can understand that, but you can't understand that Jesus + his Father = 2 LIVING BEINGS?

Quote (carmel @ April 13 2013,10:59)Mike, THE FACT THAT JESUS CONTINUES IT PROVES THAT HE IS A CONTINUEOUS PROCESS SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING.You are so blinded by your bias that you can no longer even see it.You say “you will continue on” proves Jesus died differently than the rest of us. I surely don't see those words.But then when I say, “Since…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 13 2013,09:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2013,19:09)When did Satan, one of God's creations, ever have mastery over God? Mike,ARE YOU ADMITTING THAT JESUS IS GOD AT LAST?ONLY WHEN GOD ALLOW HIM TO DO SO, AS MANIFESTED IN JOB!Nope.  I'm just using your own words against you.  YOU say that “death” is really “Satan”.  And YO…[Read more]

And nobody has ever said anything different on this thread, jammin. How many times do we have to tell you this?jammin, how do YOU explain geologists finding the remains of Neanderthals and other pre-humans that date back way farther than 6000 years?

Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2013,15:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2013,09:38)14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.If the Word was God Himself-Made-Flesh (as Kerwin's new kick dictates), why did this Word have the glory…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2013,11:56)According the inference of this statement the soul of a mouse that dwells in the tent of a human being becomes a human being.I know nothing about any scripture that speaks of the soul of a mouse dwelling in a human being.What I know is that God is never “made flesh”. This is just the best you can come up with…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 13 2013,12:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2013,19:38)14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.If the Word was God Himself-Made-Flesh (as Kerwin's new kick dictates), why did this Word have the glory of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 13 2013,08:32)Now Jesus said GOD WAS A SPIRIT………….So then God was NOT “made flesh”, as Kerwin says?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 13 2013,08:32)Mike………..No word is or can be FLESH…………Gene,For the hundredth time, the king of Abyssinia had a spokesman called Kal Hatze – which means “The Word of the King”.  This was a flesh and blood MAN, Gene.  Do you understand this?  YES or NO?So in this case, the SPOKESMAN of that king, who was ca…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2013,01:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2013,09:56)Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2013,23:11)Again they seem clearly inferred by the context.Bingo Kerwin!And since we, in English, don't say, came to him in dream, context surely seems to dictate that it was A dream.  Why?  Because there had been no particular dream mentioned b…[Read more]

Ditto what Pierre said.Kerwin, “love” isn't a BEING. God IS a being. Something must separate the BEING of God from His creations. What is that “something”? I say it's a body.You can disagree if you like, but you'll never be able to prove me wrong with philosophy.

Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2013,01:20)Traditionally nature is she called Mother Nature.  Winter is a man call OLD Man Winter.Yep. And don't forget “Father Time”. And “Baby New Year”.

Quote (carmel @ April 13 2013,00:38)DEATH, SATAN NO LONGER HAS MASTER OVER HIM!JESUS IS GOD IN FLESH!Charles,When did Satan, one of God's creations, ever have mastery over God?

Quote (kerwin @ April 10 2013,20:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 11 2013,06:52)Kerwin?Mike,I am following the conversation though I have not been motivated to post anything lately.Okay. I thought you might have had something to say about my last two or three posts to you a couple of pages ago.

Abe,I don't ever know what point you're making with the scriptures you post. Sure, I see where you space out one word from the others here and there – but that still doesn't tell me what you think that word (or scripture) is teaching, or how it applies to this discussion.Unless you actually say something in your own words, like, Mike, see where…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,20:54)do read a dictionary first before talking to me.Show me a dictionary – or any writing for that matter – that identifies “nature” as a “he”.

Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,20:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2013,13:33)Quote (jammin @ April 12 2013,20:20)your father is a human BEING and you are also a HUMAN BEING.But are we two different persons in the SAME being, jammin?If we are not, then your analogy fails miserably.  (It has failed for months, but you're just too stubborn to admit…[Read more]