Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2013,00:12)Mike,I have already quoted someone who obviously believes there is no difference. There are others.Kerwin,Aren't you taking this a bit too far? A person can seriously LOVE money – but you know that doesn't mean his love of money is “God”, right?Anyway, I was hoping to find out what your cohorts had to say…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2013,23:55)So are you claiming Jesus is not the Word made flesh?There is no scripture that actually calls Jesus “The Word-Made-Flesh”, but I agree that the Word/Jesus was made flesh for a short time.  And during that short 33 year span, he could be called “The Word Made Flesh”.But do YOU agree that John 1:14 speaks about…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 16 2013,20:15)Glory of God= Son of God.I disagree. God gives His glory to no one – yet He gave His son to us all.

Quote (carmel @ April 17 2013,13:15)THEREFORE: ALTHOUGH ADAM WAS EVIDENTLY ALIVE IN THE FLESH BODY, IN FACT HE WAS DEAD IN HIS SPIRIT! THEREFORE ALSO DEAD IN THE FLESH BODY! IN THAT SAME INSTANT!I disagree, Charles. There is no scriptural support of such a thing.And this new claim of yours is far away from proving Jesus died differently than…

Quote (jammin @ April 16 2013,21:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2013,10:46)Yes jammin,Kerwin and his father are two, individual beings who both share a human nature.Are you saying that Jesus and his Father are two, individual beings who both share a “divine” nature?two persons but have the same nature, GodBut Kerwin and his father are two…[Read more]

Yeah Pierre. It's hard to read Heb 1:8 and still refuse to believe Jesus is a god.

I've made it as far as segment 15. So far, this has been a very enlightening presentation.Thanks to John 3:3 for posting it.

Quote (t8 @ April 15 2013,20:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2013,15:53)t8, why aren't you addressing Hebrews 1:8?Sorry, that one passed me by. I haven't read that scripture, so I don't know what it is saying. Will likely answer later on as it might need additional groundwork and info to answer it.Okie-dokie.

Quote (t8 @ April 15 2013,20:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2013,15:53)Without adding that definite article, you are in the same boat as I, because “qualitatively theos” (not THE Theos) still leaves open the possibility that he is qualitatively a FALSE theos, right?Qualitatively theos describes the nature or essence being of God.No,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 15 2013,20:13)I say that Jesus was theos, just as Jesus said, 'ye are theos'. I wouldn't take that to mean that “ye are theos' means that each individual he was talking about was A God being. But that they were likened to God, counsel, etc.Why not? Apparently, every translator in the history of the world disagrees with you -…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 15 2013,21:06)i already posted the verses here that say there were no people before adam.Are you sure?  Or did you post a scripture that says there was no adam to till the ground, so God made one?So like I said, there are NO scriptures that would PROHIBIT a “sub-adam” species from existing BEFORE God created the first…[Read more]

Yes jammin,Kerwin and his father are two, individual beings who both share a human nature.Are you saying that Jesus and his Father are two, individual beings who both share a “divine” nature?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 16 2013,08:40)Now I hope that answered you question as to how i stand concerning the word GOD.Yes Gene. Thank you for your answer.Now I have two simple YES or NO questions for you:Hebrews 18 But about the Son he says,“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of y…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 16 2013,08:08)Jesus said before Abraham “I am”, the word before there is in “place of importance” and has nothing to do with him being alive as a “sentinel being”………….He was in place “before” Abraham was, He was predicted to “Come” before Abraham in the plan and will of God. So in YOUR understanding, we need to…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 15 2013,22:01)The Word of God= Son of GodAgreed.  Jesus, the Son of God, is the Word of God – as attested by the scriptures.  He was existing in the form of God before being made in the likeness of a human being – also attested by scripture.  He was made flesh and dwelled among us with the glory of God's only begotten Son – al…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ April 15 2013,20:11)Hi Mike, I am taking a break, but just had to say something! As I also believe that God is love…………………….Hey guys, I'm not shouting at you here, but I want you all to see this:Pierre and I have NEVER argued that God is NOT love.  We both believe God IS love – just like the scriptures testify.We…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2013,11:55)The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.Kerwin,Is this the wording you are going to stay with from now on?  I have many things to say, now that you've got the correct wording of 1:14.  I just don't want to start to say them only to have you switch back to a different wording again when things start going a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2013,11:55)Mike,The Hope was made flesh, and dwelt among us.A likeness toThe Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.You are just used to the traditional way of looking at Scripture.Kerwin,I see you are now using all of the words of John 1:14.  That is a step in the right direction.Unfortunately, by using all of the…[Read more]

jammin,Kerwin and his father are two, individual, living beings.Are Jesus and his Father two, individual, living beings? YES or NO?

Charles, There are a couple ways to answer your question – and both end up with a DIRECT answer of “YES”.1. Psalm 90:4A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by……..2 Peter 3:8With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.Since Adam died before he reached 1000 years old, then he…[Read more]