So then you can't answer, Kerwin? You are doing the same exact thing you are scolding jammin for doing in the other thread.You surely know that SOMETHING must separate God from His creation, right? Is it wrong to call that a spiritual body?If so, why?

I addressed it, Abe. Now I'm waiting for YOUR response to MY rebuttal.

No Kerwin. I have no proof that Neanderthals were not a trick made by Satan to fool some of us and lead us away from God.And I have no proof that Adam was not the first human being.I have only questions about the “others”, and about Seth being the third child (and fifth adam) to exist. And about the ages that men in those days had their first…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 18 2013,19:18)They were with each other in the beginning. They are one.I believe this is the kind of “tricky” language Kerwin was talking about. What exactly does that statement mean, Kathi?In my mind, if they were WITH each other, then there are TWO of them. Yet you end your statement by saying “They are ONE”.So I can…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2013,13:57)Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2013,10:40)To all,A certain clown walked into a temple and testified saying that in the beginning Jehovah has a body composed of a material he had not yet created. {Laugh Track goes here.} Kerwinthen their was that clown ,that could not read well ,because he was always joking ,never…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 18 2013,00:28)However unto the son the throne of you the God into the age of the age.Looks to me;  Unto the Son the Throne of  God into the ageYou don't think this verse is calling the Son,   God?That sounds about right, Abe.  But now let's separate the “Unto the Son” from the rest, based on the context.  We must inco…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 17 2013,20:16)This is where your going with the little g thing. Jesus Christ never mentioned himself as being a god.THINK.Jesus himself didn't come right out and say he was a god – but he surely implied it in John 10:34-36.He was basically saying, If he called them gods, then what about the one He set apart as His very…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2013,14:15)Mike,I believe Jammin is trying to say the person of Jesus and the person of God are one Yawheh without actually saying it. A sort of one degree of separation that separates him from the hard but unpleasant fact he is claiming 1 + 1 = 1;Either that or he is claiming there is two Yahweh's and finds the fact of…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 18 2013,05:39)you said kerwin and his father are two individual BEINGS. yes it is true. in that sentence, the word “being” refer to persons.Okay, let me rephrase it:Kerwin and his father are not only individual PERSONS, but also individual BEINGS.Are Jesus and his Father individual BEINGS as well as being individual PERSONS?

Quote (carmel @ April 18 2013,00:09)Which part is not in scripture?Charles, None of what you said in that last post is in any scripture that I know of.

2B,Luke 3:22and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus. Question: To which one did God say, “Your are my Son”? Jesus? Or the Holy Spirit?

And how about now, 2B? Are they still TWO DIFFERENT sons of God? Or are they now ONE son of God?Perhaps you should first master a complete understanding of your doctrine, before trying to teach it to others.BTW, it is VERY hard to understand that the Holy Spirit of God is the Son of God………… especially when many scriptures PROHIBIT such a…[Read more]

Hi Wm,Watch the first minute and 45 seconds of segment 12 again.I agree with this guy's belief that Satan delegated the position of gods over various nations to his spirit underlings.But I believe it was Jehovah Himself who originally gave all the kingdoms of the world to Satan in the first place – to rule as he saw fit.  (Luke 4:6)  I don't t…[Read more]

Does that include Jesus, Abe?  How do you pray to Jehovah through His mediator if you can't mention the mediator's name?Perhaps instead of encouraging Gene in his disbelief of scriptures, you could answer the two questions I asked him instead? (They are in the post directly above yours.)Go ahead Abe, give it a shot.

Quote (jammin @ April 16 2013,21:24)i said there were no people.do you want me to give the verse to you boy?you are not reading boy LOLIt doesn't really matter what YOU said, jammin. Who are you? What matters is the Hebrew text says there was no adam to till the ground, so God created the first one.And once again, no one here is arguing that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2013,00:36)Mike,I am seeing that you find it seemingly impossible to conceive of an existence that was before God created the multidimensional space-time continuum.Kerwin,None of us knows the least little thing about the state of things before God began creating. So why do you think you can TEACH us about this subject? H…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ April 16 2013,19:44)Mike, where have you solidly refuted these scriptures Hi Daniel,Did you even read my post? Let me summarize for you:1. Matthew 28:19 is thought to be spurious – added in by a scribe at a later time. No one ever baptized using that formula in the scriptures. Nor can anyone in their right mind assume Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2013,00:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2013,08:03)Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2013,11:24)This is my understanding The Utterance existed in the very beginning,the Utterance was with God,the Utterance was divine.The noun form is here used, not the adjectival theios, which would be required to simply classify the Word as…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 17 2013,07:18)2besee and abe……….You both have put forth the truth and used sound and right scriptures………..I agree Gene. They have indeed produced very fine scriptures that support the fact that JESUS is the “light” spoken of in John 1:4-13.

Quote (2besee @ April 17 2013,04:05)Was Jesus a pre-existent god, or a man?According to Paul — a man.Yes 2B,And according to Paul, Jesus was existing in the form of God BEFORE being made into the likeness of a man.  (Phil 2:6-8)  And he was the firstborn of all creation, for all things in heaven and on earth were created through him. (Col 1…[Read more]