Quote (jammin @ April 24 2013,21:25)IT SAYS THERE THE EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE!Exact representation of WHOSE nature, jammin?  God's, right?  Did you read the rest of the passage?3 After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the n…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 25 2013,11:35)Does John mean God is literally love?It's poetic language, Kerwin. I could just as truthfully say “Jesus is love”.It is a poetic way of emphasizing “love” as one of God's (or Jesus') best qualities. So NO, John did not mean that God was literally the emotion of love itself. And since he DIDN'T mean that, we…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 25 2013,07:27)So indeed our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against human beings being effected by the darken Spirits in them and even against these same evil forces in the heavenly realms.Gene,Your own words contradict themselves, since a “human being” IS “flesh and blood”.I didn't see any answer to my…[Read more]

Thanks for that information, t8. Hebrews 17 In speaking of the angels he says,“He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”8 But about the Son he says,“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever……….Is this verse calling Jesus a god?

Quote (jammin @ April 24 2013,22:28)first, no one has ever seen God at any time. but the God of OT has seen by men. Are you saying that John 1:18 and 1 John 4:12 are lies?

Quote (jammin @ April 24 2013,22:28)Paul said this Rock that went along with moses and to his people is Christ!Actually, Paul said they were all baptized into MOSES in the wilderness, and that the rock was “christ”.  He didn't specifically say it was JESUS christ.  (God has had MANY “christs” in the scriptures – including Moses.)Also, the writer o…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 25 2013,13:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 24 2013,18:02)jammin, Kathi, and Charles,Is Jesus the Most High God?  Or the Son of the Most High God?  Which one?Jesus is part of Jehovah, the Most High God in the corporate sense and the son of the Most High God when the Most High God is referring to the Father.So which one does S…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 25 2013,13:58)Mike,Did you watch the video about what 'being' meant?No, but Kerwin's words make me think the claims in the video can be easily refuted – whatever they are.Kathi, I don't like to watch a bunch of biased videos. I don't like being linked to biased websites that take a long time to read.If there are any “Home…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 12 2013,22:58)The Harrison Ford movie that I am in, “42, The Jackie Robinson Story,” came out today.Did you ever end up meeting Mr. Ford? Do you have any lines in the movie?

I'm still waiting for YOU to find an actual scripture (not a man's ADDITION TO scripture) that says Cain's wife was an offspring of Adam.Let me know when you find those HEBREW words in a HEBREW ms, okay?

Quote (jb2u @ April 20 2013,16:54)I pray that she considers Jesus' words in John 4:22. Here, Jesus reconfirms that the Jews know what they worship, and thus, they worship the correct God.He even included himself among the group of people who worship the true God by saying “we worship what we know”.

Quote (jb2u @ April 24 2013,08:55)Additionally, it took them many councils to come up with what this doctrine of the trinity would even be. It was not just one council, Nicene, and everyone said, “OK, that is Biblical truth.” NO, they went back an forth council after council about the particulars of this NEW doctrine.First the Trinity won out, and…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 24 2013,08:06)The power of Christ Jesus was GOD the Father not the Man Jesus himself .Yes Gene,But Paul warns us that our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Eph…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,23:22)Gene said: 'we “finely found” something we all agree on' …”finally” – I would say!fine·ly adverb1. in a fine manner; excellentlyMaybe Gene really meant “finely”, Ed.

Quote (jammin @ April 23 2013,23:02)NO VERSE that says angels have the image and likeness of God.I don't think there is a verse in scripture that specifically says that, but it seems quite obvious to me.  Let me ask you a couple of questions, and see if you can answer them honestly.  (I don't even care if you answer them honestly TO US, ON THIS S…[Read more]

Why does Gene get twice as many years as I do? That doesn't seem fair.

jammin, Kathi, and Charles,Is Jesus the Most High God?  Or the Son of the Most High God?  Which one?

BTW Daniel,I'm not a JW, and didn't bother to read any of the material you posted about them. I couldn't care less. My understanding comes from scripture – not from the JWs, and certainly not from any other organization.

Quote (4Thomas @ April 22 2013,19:27)You have provided me *no evidence*, I searched the forum which is took some time but sorry I can’t find any evidence. Please show me your evidence for Eusebius,You apparently did not search thoroughly enough, Daniel.    Read the entire (HUGE) opening post of this thread.  You'll see a ton of “evidence”, incl…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 23 2013,10:57)AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO MIKE!THAT WHEN JESUS WAS DEAD ON THE CROSS HE WAS ALSO ALIVE!SO HE DIDN'T DIE LIKE WE DO!You are correct that these are the things you were TELLING me, Charles.  You just weren't able to produce any scriptures that proved them, remember?