Quote (Lightenup @ June 22 2013,22:39)He isn't lower than the angels anymore. He is back to the glory that He had with the Father before the world began.Actually, he was exalted by his and our God to a glory that even EXCEEDS the glory he had when the universe was created through him – the glory he had before he emptied himself to be made in the…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 23 2013,00:59)Hi Ed,When did Mike and T. start believing this  STUFF?I read the other threads, it seems LU and Mike and T believe the same thing?Don't forget Kerwin.  He also believes Paul that there are indeed many gods and many lords, both in heaven and on earth.The question I asked in my post to Ed should be the beginning of y…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 22 2013,11:10)Jesus is the Son of God.Yep. In fact, Jesus is the firstborn among myriads upon myriads of spirit sons of Jehovah.

Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2013,10:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 21 2013,12:45)my faith is simple:  there is only one true God and Jesus is either a true god or a false God.Hi Mike, There is only one true God and Jesus is neither a true God or a false God.I only had to add the letter “N” to change 'either' to “NEITHER”.  Not exactly, Ed.  You had to ad…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2013,21:31)and yes to your last sentence ,we are coming to the same conclusion by different ways

Quote (2besee @ June 21 2013,20:25)Anyway, let's move on.If you are upset at a post, click the report post button, and if nothing is done, post it here. Fair enough?That's good for me.peace,mike

I will defer to t8, since this discussion was his idea.

Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2013,19:49)I see what you are saying ,but I do not see it as a lie ,I do understand that God almighty and father of Christ as no equal and so his the only true GodAh, but it's not the Hebrew word “el” that distinguishes Jehovah from all the other gods, Pierre. The word “el” is generic, and refers to any “mighty one” -…[Read more]

That guy sure has a gift. His timing, looks, voices – he has the complete comedian package.A normal guy would have left it alone…… but I'm not a normal guy, and no one was home! If you're waiting for the video, don't hold your breath!

Thanks!   Unfortunately, it is all too true.  I would be willing to bet that more than HALF of all Trinitarians are such simply because of the flawed translation, and the Word was God.And the ONLY reason that comically nonsensical rendering is in even ONE translation of the scriptures is because the Trinitarians have convinced unwitting people t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 21 2013,03:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 21 2013,06:51)Yeah, but ARE you saying that the Word CREATED flesh?Mike,These are the words I would speak to express the results of the Word being made flesh and dwelling among us.  grammarly.com shows I am using good grammar.The Word made flesh dwelt among us full of grace and truth…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 20 2013,23:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,17:00)Quote (abe @ June 19 2013,21:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2013,17:20)Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2013,13:07)Hi Mike,What do you believe the “Tree of Life” is then?I haven't seen any scriptural reason to think it is anything but an actual tree – the leaves of which will heal the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2013,19:26)Hi Mike, Our arguments are always about doctrine, nothing is ever personal.We can fight like dogs, and then go out for tea and crumpets.  Hi Ed,Meant to respond to this the other day, but forgot.You are correct, my friend.  In fact, I personally like every member on this site.  I even like jammin.  He cracks me up.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,19:53)2B, Are you accusing me of speaking out of both sides of my mouth?Quote (2besee @ June 20 2013,20:48)Mike,Hi All,It seems to me and some others that certain behaviors on HN have been tolerated for too long.  Some of the things we say to, and about each other are anything but Christian; and some people even…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ June 20 2013,01:35) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Is it your intention to say that Jesus is a “YHWH” that CAN BE seen by human eyes, while the Father is a “YHWH” that CANNOT be seen by human eyes?  YES or NO?Yes, I believe we can't access the Father directly.Okay.  So now we both agree that Jesus, the servant OF the Father, is a lesser g…[Read more]

2B, Are you accusing me of speaking out of both sides of my mouth?

From the “ISM” thread………………Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,18:35)The claim that there LITERALLY exists only ONE “el” was never taught in scripture, and was ushered in by Trinitarians who KNOW Jesus is called a god in at least 4 scriptures. Their thinking was: If we convince people that there is LITERALLY only one “true” god, and all…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,18:35)The claim that there LITERALLY exists only ONE “el” was never taught in scripture, and was ushered in by Trinitarians who KNOW Jesus is called a god in at least 4 scriptures.  Their thinking was:  If we convince people that there is LITERALLY only one “true” god, and all others are “false gods”, then we can e…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 19 2013,21:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2013,17:20)Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2013,13:07)Hi Mike,What do you believe the “Tree of Life” is then?I haven't seen any scriptural reason to think it is anything but an actual tree – the leaves of which will heal the nations, and the fruit of which, if eaten, will endow the person who ate…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2013,11:30)LU,Your teaching confuses me as it seems you have two Gods though I believe you say you have one.No,She comes right out and proclaims TWO individual Jehovahs.(My spell checker is red-flagging the plural “Jehovahs” that I just wrote.  Even my spell checker knows there is only one of them, and that it shouldn't be…[Read more]