Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,18:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,18:25)Also, what is Jesus' NEW name?Mike,…….he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.So if that is his NEW name, then he HASN'T been “Jehovah our Righteousness” from eternity, has he?Of course, we already knew from John 17:11-12 that IF your claim that Jesus is also…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,17:33)You are forgetting Mike, that Acts tells us that “according to the flesh God would raise up the Christ to sit on His throne.” That puts flesh on the throne in heaven!Hi Jodi,First of all, the words “according to the flesh” are not even in the oldest and best mss of Acts 2:30.  They are not in the Latin Vulg…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ June 24 2013,19:21)Mike I believe scripture teaches explicitly that there is only one “true” god, and all others are false gods with Satan being the Father of them.Do you have a single scripture to show a single true God except Yahweh?First of all, Satan is NEVER in ANY scripture EVER called a “false god”.  He IS called a god,…[Read more]

Rev 3:12I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.Kathi, do you think those bolded conjunctions are there just for fun?Also, what is Jesus' NEW name?

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 24 2013,19:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,11:13)I will set up a “Mike and Jodi ONLY” debate thread where we can take these things a little at a time.  That way, if you leave for a while, you won't be bogged down with a million new posts since you last posted.Okay Mike, that sounds good. I have the summer off, so I…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,11:45)The fact of the matter is, the flesh that is being spoken about was indeed weak flesh, right? We can agree to that?….he cried with vehement cries, he was tempted just like we are.I prefer that we debate by giving scripture and seeing who's understanding makes the most sense by those scriptures.Well, Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 24 2013,20:57)……..it's not us who are twisting scripture to say what they don't say , it's you , Mike and the other Trinitarians and Preexistence here……….But isn't it you guys who have to ADD the word “IN” into John 1:14, making it say, “the Word came to be IN flesh” – because you don't like the teaching as it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,07:06)All your qustion have been answered over and over and over by not only me but, everyone else here ,Really Gene?Here is the last (of MANY) questions that have gone unanswered by you:In Psalm 8:5, David says that Jehovah made mankind a little lower than “the gods”. Who are these gods David was referring to,…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 24 2013,18:58)The difference in you and me is that I believe that what pre existed was the Word, also known as the Spirit of Christ, also known as the Spirit of the Son, and also known as the Holy Spirit (there is only one Spirit)………….So if there is literally only one spirit, should you also add: also known as the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:20)I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name cover all three, God the Father, the city and Jesus.So then the name of the Father is also “Jehovah is our Righteousness”?  Kathi, in 3:12, Jesus clearly speaks of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,18:04)Anyone can link scriptures together and make them submit to some crazy theory like you have shown with your satan example.And that is exactly what YOU are doing – from our perspective.It is clear all throughout scripture that Jesus is the Messiah, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Lamb and Son OF our ONE Most High…[Read more]

Marty,We'll all be awaiting the results of your research. Keep us posted.

Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,15:57)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,07:31)Edj…………. Pierre  and Mike don't have any idea what thy are even saying IMO, and how they both continue to contradict  themselves .Hi Gene,Trying to make Jesus “The Word” in John 1:1 spawns all kinds of crazy doctrines. Notice how those who share this belief are t…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 24 2013,15:19)Hi Mike,Col.2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception………….Abe,Is that post your way of saying you WON'T answer my simple question? Or that you CAN'T answer it?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 24 2013,14:31)Edj…………. Pierre and Mike don't have any idea what thy are even saying IMO………..Is that post your way of saying you WON'T answer my simple question? Or that you CAN'T answer it?

Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2013,20:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,03:55)5 You have made them a little lower than the gods    and crowned them with glory and honor.Who exactly are these gods that Jehovah made mankind a little lower than?Hi Mike,        They are not 'gods' but “Angels”…You are correct that the ones David called gods are indee…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 24 2013,15:31)Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,05:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,04:36)Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 21 2013,23:55)Hebrews 5:7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications…..To all those who believe Jesus is STILL a human being in heaven:  What does the writer of Hebrews…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 24 2013,17:08)Rev 19:19 the end of the world the return of Christ Jesus – it is still to come.Your opinion?Agreed. But the point is that it will be JESUS CHRIST who battles against the beast and the kings of the earth.Therefore, it is JESUS CHRIST who rides the white horse.Therefore, it is JESUS CHRIST who is called “the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2013,05:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,07:52)Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2013,14:42)Mike,I still say “the Word made flesh” when speaking of the Word that was made flesh after it was made.Okay.   We're getting nearer to clearer now.  So you are saying that AFTER the Word WAS MADE flesh, it is okay to refer to him as “The W…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2013,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,13:00)Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2013,16:28)“he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood”   …means…”their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments” (Isa 63:3)That could be, Ed.  It seems the commentators agree with that thought.But isn't this rider in Rev 19 already wearing a r…[Read more]