Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2013,11:59)Mike,Peter calls them both our God. Face it.And yes, one of them is someone other than the other one.I disagree. When you get the time, we'll go through every word Peter wrote in scripture, and see if he thought Jesus was “God”, okay?Let me know. (I'd like to do the same with ALL of the NT writers.)

Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,01:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 23 2013,10:37)Genesis 22:13 NIV……took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son.AKJV…….took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.Exodus 32:6 NIV…….sacrificed burnt offerings……… AKJV……..offered burnt…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,01:08)Hi Mike,You are trying to apply the English definition of “God” to the Hebrew word “EL-o-heem”.I'm about to bang my head against a wall, Ed!   Hasn't it been ME who has been insisting that we can't “back-translate” the 21st century understanding of “god” to the Hebrew word “elohim”?  So let's BOTH start all over W…[Read more]

I'll watch it soon. It is on Vudu now.

Quote (kerwin @ July 22 2013,18:30)He was saying that he was greater than the ones Scripture called gods, the ones to whom the Word came.We agree there, Kerwin.  That's exactly what Jesus was saying.I don't agree that he is “God” to their “gods” though.  The Jews accused him of making himself out to be a god.  He was saying, “What's wrong with th…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ July 21 2013,21:49)1.NO, Paul said Flesh AND BLOOD cannot inherit the kingdom of God.Can you show me an instance in the NT where the phrase “flesh and blood” does not refer to a human being?Quote (Jodi Lee @ July 21 2013,21:49) 2. NO, to enter into the kingdom one must deny the flesh and walk according to the Spirit. Actually,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 22 2013,18:11)I used as an sort of example Jesus who give himself the title of God even though he is not Jehovah.35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God cameAre you equating “God” with “gods”?Was Jesus saying that those to whom the word of GOD came were called GOD?

Quote (Lightenup @ July 21 2013,22:10)Mike,you said:Quote So yes, Jesus is the savior that my God Jehovah SENT into the world.  But no, he is not my God.  Only the Father holds that position for me.Can you admit that Peter calls the Son 'our God and Savior, Jesus Christ' in this verse:2 Peter 1:1 From Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus C…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2013,22:36)GOD said instead to “OFFER” his son as a burnt offering (see Gen.22:2-18),Genesis 22:13 NIVAbraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son.AKJV13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2013,20:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2013,04:43)Why would a being who has “special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature” be considered a “false god”?The Bible call them 'idols': “For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.” (Psalms 96:5)The word “idol” is not in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2013,19:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2013,04:43)There is no use of “elohim” or “theos” in any scripture that automatically implies “creator of the universe”.  Hi Mike, Trying to back-translate is where the problem comes in.That is not only not an answer, but it doesn't even make sense.  Give me an example of how I'm “…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2013,19:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2013,04:43)Is Jehovah the MOST HIGH “creator and ruler of the universe” – as if there are other creators and rulers of the universe?  huh?Ed,In the post following the one I'm addressing, you said: Hi Mike,”GOD” most certainly DOES MEAN “Creator and ruler of the universe”.So if “GOD”…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 22 2013,14:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2013,00:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2013,11:56)Either the Word was God or was a god will work……….NO Kerwin!It either IS God Himself, OR it is a god who is NOT God himself.Either/or does not work in this case.(Thank you for admitting that “a god” is an acceptable translation of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 22 2013,12:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 22 2013,12:35)Gene?  4th post on the previous page?Look, I don't really care if you address the post or not.  I just get irritated when you butt into a discussion I'm having, but then fail to stand and defend the things you said.So I'm asking you to either defend your claims, or d…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 22 2013,14:12)I am somewhat inclined to believe it is his thoughts as well.Kerwin,So you believe God's own thoughts became flesh, dwelled on earth, and had the glory of God's only begotten Son?It seems to me that you don't quite know exactly what you believe yet.  Let me know when you do.Then we can go through the first 4…[Read more]

Yes Pierre. You, Jesus, and I all worship the same God and Creator.

Gene? 4th post on the previous page?Look, I don't really care if you address the post or not. I just get irritated when you butt into a discussion I'm having, but then fail to stand and defend the things you said.So I'm asking you to either defend your claims, or don't make them in the first place.

Thanks t8 and Kathi. (How could you do it without an old embed code?)

Quote (Jodi Lee @ July 21 2013,15:36)Verse 45 does not say that Jesus became a spirit being, it says he became a life giving spirit. To be spiritually mind united with the spirit in Christ causes you to inherit the kingdom of God. So how about the unclean spirits that Jesus and the disciples drove out of humans?  Were they spirit BEINGS?How about…[Read more]

Kerwin,I'm asking what the actual book of Jasher says about the sun standing still.Do you know what chapter that incident is recorded in the book of Jasher?