Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2013,20:12)Mike,He indirectly denied their accusation by shifting the meaning of God, so that instead of meaning he was Jehovah it just meant he was superior to the gods.And what exactly was their accusation, Kerwin?  That Jesus claimed to be God Almighty Himself?  When did Jesus do such a thing for them to make such a c…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ July 27 2013,23:46)What is the Word of Christ?The teachings Christ gave to the people of the world. The words he spoke. The lessens he taught. The understandings he shared with us.

Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2013,20:06)Mike,Elisha's word went to God and accomplished it's purpose.I agree that we could metaphorically and poetically say that Elisha's word accomplished it's purpose.  But just because we personify the word of Elisha – making it sound like it was an entity separate from Elisha, complete with it's own will – the fact…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2013,20:16)“So shall “My Word” be that goeth forth out of my mouth:  it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which  I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”  (Isaiah 55:11)2 Kings 6:18 AKJVAnd when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said, Smite this people, I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2013,19:42)What he said amounts to him saying “Since these that merely received the Word are called gods then it is only appropriate to call the one Jehovah sanctified and sent into the world God.”In the OT, the vice regents of God were addressed as both “Jehovah” and “God”, so I acknowledge your point………. although I…[Read more]

Hi Ed,Hebrews 11:17 NET © By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac. He had received the promises, 1  yet he was ready to offer up 2  his only son.Footnote #2 says:Grk “he was offering up.”  The tense of this verb indicates the attempt or readiness to sacrifice Isaac without the actual completion of the deed.The word “offer” has man…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2013,12:40)Mike,1) Jesus did deny the claim……………How do you figure?Did Jesus say, “I never made myself out to be God”? NOPE.Instead, he pointed to lesser ones who were called gods in scripture, and then said, “If they were called gods, then WHY NOT ME?”Notice that he did not say, “If they were called God, then why…[Read more]

Ed,It is true that the NIV (like the AKJV) has translational errors in it. But this is not one of them.Ed, do you agree that Isaac was to be offered to God as a BURNT offering? YES or NO?

Quote (4Thomas @ July 23 2013,18:33)So if we could just pray for each other at the moment and continue this debate in a few weeks that would be good.In Christ and only wanting the best for you Amen, my friend.I'm in no hurry.

Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,20:53)1) It doesn't mean that there are 'gods' – especially when JEHOVAH specifically says that there are no other gods.But Jehovah didn't say there are no other gods, Ed.Jehovah said there are no other elohim.You are back-translating the much later English word “god” into the Hebrew words Jehovah actually…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2013,10:39)Ed, Abraham was told to BURN his son in both translations.  Are you unable to see this?Hi Mike,GOD does not “LIE”, he told Abraham to offer Isaac not to sacrifice him.Why do you suppose Abraham took wood with him up the mountain?  What was Abraham's intention for that w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 24 2013,17:02)i was right about you in my quote .Every day we all have the choice to either build up, or tear down.Let's always choose to build up – as far as it depends upon us.

Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,21:44)33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;36…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,17:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2013,09:56)Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,01:08)Hi Mike,You are trying to apply the English definition of “God” to the Hebrew word “EL-o-heem”.I'm about to bang my head against a wall, Ed!   Hasn't it been ME who has been insisting that we can't “back-translate” the 21st century…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2013,17:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2013,10:05)1.  God told Abraham to sacrifice his son, but then stopped him at the last minute.2.  God told Abraham to offer his son as a burnt offering, but then stopped him at the last minute. One means to attempt to do(#2)                 and the other means to actually do(#1).[Read more]

Take your time, Daniel. No rush here.

Are you guys saying that your ancient Chinese secret is that you searched and found a copy that DID have an old embed code? Okay then. Well, thanks for the efforts.

Quote (t8 @ July 23 2013,06:19)Cept he believes in the Trinity.Yeah. And sometimes I believe he goes a little overboard with symbols. I can't remember the exact product advertisement, but he reckons the company is in cahoots with Satan simply because their logo looks like some ancient symbol. Could just be a coincidence and the company knew…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 22 2013,19:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 23 2013,06:40)Being a god is one thing.  Being God is another.Mike,As I said I am assuming translators translated the emphasis correctly and the Jews accused him of claiming to be God.And when did Jesus ever claim to be God Himself, Kerwin?