Gene,We were talking about BEING God by nature. Not about having the nature of God IN you.

What's the other option, Wakeup? If the child born to us wasn't the Father, and wasn't going to become the Father – why do you think he will be called by a title that means he is our heavenly Father?

Quote (Wakeup @ April 17 2014,22:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2014,11:39)Wakeup,1.  Was our heavenly Father Jehovah the son who was born to us?  YES or NO?2.  Will the son who was born to us someday BECOME our heavenly Father Jehovah?  YES or NO?Mike B.1. No.2.No.wakeup.Then are you able to understand that this child's future title, “everlasting…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 17 2014,22:33)But if you state something blatantly incorrect and confuse forced slavery with voluntary slavery as the whole of the Internet likes to do, I will mention it.By all means, David.But please show me where I confused the two and thereby stated something blatantly incorrect.

Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2014,00:37)I guess you found one of my lost “not”'s.

Quote (carmel @ April 19 2014,00:54)I BELIEVE THAT GOD ALMIGHTY WAS BORN IN A FLESH BODY OF JESUS CHRIST!NOTICE IT SAYS A CHILD NOT A SON BECAUSE JESUS WAS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE, BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH, BOTH SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN,WHEN HE WAS BORN!Charles,Romans 8:3For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2014,11:24)T,I believe a better example is I believe Will is a sheep by nature.  The by nature is speaking of Will's sheep like actions.In that case, Pierre is right and you are saying it wrong, Kerwin.The fact that Will has “sheep like actions” would never cause anyone to say “Will is a sheep by nature”….. because Will…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 18 2014,07:24) I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God.THEREFORE HE IS NO LONGER IN THAT HUMAN STATE HE WAS RESURRECTED IN, BUT ASCENDED INTO BOTH IN THE STATE OF HIS FATHER'S SPIRIT, AND ALSO IN THE STATE OF OUR FATHER 'S FLESH WHICH HE ALWAYS OWNED!Charles,The Father doesn't have flesh. He has…[Read more]

Charles,Romans 8:3For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.According to Paul, God sent His Son in the likeness of flesh.According to you, God put on a costume, and masqueraded on earth as His own Son.

Quote (Ed J @ April 18 2014,09:29)Regarding #2. A. Should the indefinite article “a” have been italicized, YOU bet! B. Would I say the editors were ‘wrong’ for NOT italicizing it?    Wrong is not the word I would use, neglectful perhaps.    Can you really call someone wrong for overlooking something?Now please suggest (as a Moderator) that T8 hon…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 18 2014,09:29)Regarding #1. Neither the Greek, nor the Hebrew has “indefinite articles”     So Jesus could not have said ‘one of you is A devil’Will you make the same argument throughout the scriptures – since neither Greek nor Hebrew use an indefinite article – and therefore that article is added into the English versions…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ April 16 2014,19:56)Scripture teaches THE **Father** is **unchanging**Use common sense on that one, Daniel.Although the BEING we know as “God” doesn't change, circumstances concerning Him DO CHANGE.For example, “God” wasn't a ruler until He had someone to rule over.And God wasn't a “Father” until he begat a child.And God wasn't a…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ April 16 2014,19:56)Again Mike i'm asking FOR  WHAT was Jesus THE Son of God before he became *flesh**Sorry my friend,I will not be moved off topic.  Right now we have to get some closure on a couple of things before we move forward:1.  I want you to recognize that the Apostles of Christ who made the prayer in Acts 4 did NOT co…[Read more]

Charles,Here is the thread I was talking about.  Start reading from the second post on page 19.

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2014,00:16)(1) Edited James Version (EDJV interpretation):Jesus was NOT calling Judas 'the devil' nor was Jesus even calling Judas 'a devil'(2) Authorised King James Version (AKJV):Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?Obviously both your interpretation and the AKJV cannot be correct.My…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2014,21:30)Journey,We all seem to make mistakes but sometimes the timing makes it humorous.Kerwin,journey assumed the “mistake” was the apostrophe in the word. But I think you were talking about the word “learnt” itself. Am I right?If so, I've come to the conclusion that “learnt” is the official past tense form of…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 17 2014,13:57)For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.OK MIKE?SO ONLY THE CHILD WHO WAS BORN IS CALLED THE FATHER OF THE WORLD TO COME! AND ALSO GOD…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2014,11:09)JamminQuote you will easily detect a false teacher if – he/she CANT read what he/she is saying- there is no VERSE that will support his/her doctrine- ALL are stories and not written in the bible. examples of these are:mike – Christ was existing in the form of his own GodCol 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 17 2014,07:35)mike,if you can give me ANY VERSIONS that say in phil 2.6 that Christ was existing in the form of his own father then you can close the case.The case has already been closed, jammin.It was closed the minute you refused to answer my question about the SECOND “God” in Phil 2:6.It was closed the second you were…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 17 2014,00:59)THE BEGINNING OF OUR WORLD WHEN THE WORD LEFT THE FATHER TO CREATE ALL!WHEN THE WORD CREATED HIS MOTHER!WHEN THE WORD LET HIS MOTHER'S WOMB TO BECOME!THE WORD MADE FLESHAND WHEN THE WORD MADE FLESH CLEAVED TO HIS WIFE: AND BECAME ONE FLESH.AND WHEN THEY BOTH IN ONE FLESH BODY WERE NAKED:Charles,That whole…[Read more]