Kerwin,God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son to die as an atonement for our sins.Jesus said he didn't come to save the righteous, but the sinners.Why would God send His very own firstborn Son to save a bunch of godless people He had already “disowned” anyway? Surely Jesus didn't come to save the ones YOU consider “sons of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,21:58)Mike,This is the passage you are contradicting.  Seek to explain yourself better.John 8:44New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)44 You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Wh…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,21:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2014,04:58)Kerwin,You made the claim that ONLY those who adhere to the word of God are “children of God”.I'm trying to correct your misunderstanding about that.  Have I succeeded yet?Mike,If you believe that is true then you are essentially calling Jesus a liar.  He is the one who s…[Read more]

Well then, give it a read.They you can eat your words yet again.

Quote (carmel @ May 15 2014,12:52)NOW IN HEBREWS 2:8  PAUL SAID:8Thou hast subjected all things under his feet. For in that he hath subjected all things to him, he left nothing not subject to him.IN THE ABOVE  IT IS EMPHATICALLY CLEAR THAT: THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT NOT SUBJECT TO JESUSA father can give his son “everything he owns”.  But we must al…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,12:10)She did not say that humans do not enter the kingdom of heaven but that instead they transform to spirit beings before entering.  You have also claimed this previously even though there is nowhere in Scripture that is written.But it IS written in scripture!Humans are made of FLESH, Kerwin.And Paul says FLESH…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,11:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2014,05:43)Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,00:37)Mike,Quote “Enter” is clearly implied by Paul, and explicitly STATED by Jesus in John 3.  And in Jesus' teaching, only “flesh” is mentioned, so you can't weasel out of it by saying, “Flesh and BONE is okay, as long as it's not flesh and…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 15 2014,07:41)you may also check this Essence is also called form, for the certitude of every thing is signified through its form, as Avicenna says in his Metaphysicae I, cap. 6.I have never heard of that person, or of that line of reasoning before.But it doesn't matter, since “form” was in your list of synonyms of “essence”.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2014,21:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2014,18:05)Hi MB, It depends which creation.The Word became flesh. But the Word was not a separate creation prior to thenBut how can you say that when Paul said Jesus was the firstborn of EVERY creature?And then followed that statement up by telling us how ALL THINGS, whether…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 14 2014,01:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2014,14:50)Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.MikeB.You should know that is symbolically speaking.God created angels; he did not give birth to angels.God also “created” mountains and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,14:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2014,09:09)Quote (kerwin @ May 12 2014,19:18)Mike,So according to you Cain who was hid from God's face was still a son of God?Absolutely!  If YOUR son does a very bad thing, perhaps even murder, does he cease to be your son?  Satan is also still a son of God – despite doing far worse t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2014,17:13)hi MB, It seems to be the only relevant sonship. Unless folk join his kingdom they are goneYeah,Like I said much earlier, those scriptures involve being a son of God in a much BETTER way than you already were.But “BETTER” doesn't eliminate the fact that you already were a son of God. And that's all I'm…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 12 2014,21:23)Proof that the Nephilim are still here.

Quote (4Thomas @ May 14 2014,05:04)I started this debate with you because you said Jesus is a angel.Yes, Jesus is an angel of God.The Greek word “aggelos” just means “messenger”.IS Jesus a messenger of God?  Of course he is.  He himself said he came to do God's will, and speak only what the Father told him to speak.In English translations, we u…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 14 2014,12:29)WHAT CONVINCED YOU SO MUCH THAT MADE YOU BELIEVE THAT HE NEVER HAD HIS SPIRITUAL BODY WHILE HE WAS ON EARTH? Luke 24:37-39, Charles.Jesus flat out told his disciples that he WASN'T a spirit at that time.  I don't believe he lied to them.Also 1 John 3:2, where it is clear that the disciples hadn't ever seen Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 14 2014,08:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2014,14:56)Quote (jammin @ May 13 2014,20:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2014,12:02)Quote (jammin @ May 12 2014,17:56)what is your form or nature?Which one are you asking about, jammin?The words mean two different things.form also means nature. nature is a synonym of essence and essence…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,00:45)Mike,Quote Kerwin, you'd be surprised at how many of the phrases “flesh and blood” in the OT are literally “BONE and flesh” in the Hebrew text.  The phrases mean the same thing.  The scholars who translated “BONE and flesh” as “flesh and BLOOD” knew this.  They altered it to “flesh and BLOOD” in our Bibles, be…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,00:37)Mike,Quote “Enter” is clearly implied by Paul, and explicitly STATED by Jesus in John 3.  And in Jesus' teaching, only “flesh” is mentioned, so you can't weasel out of it by saying, “Flesh and BONE is okay, as long as it's not flesh and BLOOD!”I assume you mean John 3:5 which has a meaning that a man cannot enter…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,00:30)Mike,Quote The word “mortal” is not in the Greek scripture, Kerwin.  But if your “expert witnesses” understand “flesh” to mean “mortal”, and our future bodies will NOT BE “mortal”, there is a strong implication that those future bodies will not be “flesh” either.Besides……. flesh, blood AND bone are all…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 13 2014,23:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2014,08:20)Quote (kerwin @ May 12 2014,18:13)Jesus is the exact image of God because he does what he sees God doing and says what he sees God say.  It is not about physical appearance………..In Hebrews 1:3, the Greek word is “charakter”, Kerwin.Do you know what a “charakter”…[Read more]