Proclaimer: Further, God dwells in the heaven / raqia / sky / space. Yet, I bet you do not believe he is embedded in a glass dome or floats under it. So you might need to understand that there could be three heavens and heavens / raqia / sky / space covers a lot of area and can be applied specifically to different layers.

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Ding Dong! Hopefully this time Mike
100th time lucky? Let’s see.

That’s a rather strange header for a post in which you’ve finally directly and honestly answered a couple of very easy Yes or No questions for the VERY FIRST TIME.  🤔   Ahh…  maybe you’re referring to the number of times I ASKED the questions and you DIDN’T answer them.…[Read more]

Now explain which “Up” points to God’s throne and the thrones of the 24 elders that surround Him in that second image.  I’ll wait…

Answer the two questions directly and honestly please.  Thank you.

Hi Kathi, I see you are fielding some of Jodi’s preexistence claims here.  And Carmel’s also here talking about the Trinity.  I see all three of them (Yahweh Unity, Trinity, Preexistence) directly related to a discussion to determine what the Bible truly teaches about our Lord Jesus.

I begged off a couple of Jodi’s posts because I didn’t know i…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Mike somehow thinks that this photo is evidence of a flat earth…

I’ll get to your most recent false claims about me this weekend.  That will give you time to provide your simple “Yes or No” answers to those two very easy questions.   (Pro Tip:  The answers are right there in the scripture posted above each questions. 😉)

Proclaimer: But it doesn’t matter as far as flat earth goes because there are three heavens. So above and in the raqia will be different depending on which heaven is being referenced as Paul mentioned a third heaven. I’ve said this countless times, but you appear to not understand. For example, Jesus taught us to pray to God IN Heaven. So is God…

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Mike: 2.  PROCLAIMER, DID GOD SET THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE RAQIA?  YES OR NO?

Proclaimer:  Not sure. I would have to look it up to see of it is IN, ABOVE, or is it just saying above the waters below as that is the last thing spoken of before that wording.

So you’ve been claiming that you’ve ANSWERED my question a BUNCH of times already – ye…[Read more]

Jodi: Hi Mike,

Sounds great, start the thread! 

Jodi, that’s fantastic.  I often only have time to post here on the weekends, but I’ll put a link to the new thread here when I make it.  I’ll make it as a private thread to start if you don’t mind.

Proclaimer:  I’ve given my answer about the expanse many times.

Actually, you’ve OBFUSCATED many times, making sure you avoid my DIRECT questions.  Your and Gene’s answer is that “clouds” are the “waters above”.  That answer is clearly wrong according to scripture.  So I repeat these two very EASY questions in the hopes that you will – for once…[Read more]

LU:  Sometimes the word “God” is directed to one person (the Father whose name is YHVH)…

So then every single reference to the Most High using either “God” or “Yahweh” could be referring to the Father alone, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Son?  And then that would be why they always refer to “God” and “Yahweh” as a He?

Kathi, can y…[Read more]

Proclaimer: I see what you are trying to say with the sun fade. That the sun can turn off. Let’s run with the sun turning off or fading every single day. If it can just turn off, then wouldn’t the people in that location see the sun turn off while the sun was overhead? Yeah, you need to think such things Mike before embarking on a certain path…

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Proclaimer:  <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>No excuses Mike</span>

You mean you DON’T want me to do for even a week what YOU’VE been doing for a year?  Is that what you’re really trying to tell me?  😆

Save your breath.  I will get to your burning issue in one year from today… IF you have reasonably addressed the many issues that I’ve raised ove…[Read more]

Jodi: The angel tells Joseph: 

20 But while he thought on these things…

Why did you start in verse 20, and also disregard what I just showed you from verses 18 and 19?

Jodi:  17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make…

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Proclaimer: Mike this rubbish you are posting about black gannets or whatever is an attempt to sidetrack the perfectly reasonable request for you to bring back the sun after sunset, using your awesome camera gear.

We call it the Black Swan.  It is undeniable proof that we don’t live on a ball – even if we never offered a single other piece of e…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  You think there is one heaven Mike. This leads you to a number of errors and stupid questions about the order of things.

Genesis 1:7… And God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia.

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Jodi: My belief from scripture is that Jesus’s conception in a virgin occurred through the power of God’s Spirit where by that power God took Joseph’s seed and fertilized Mary’s egg making a true human being.

Matthew 1:18-20…This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged in marriage to Joseph, but before they cam…[Read more]

Jodi: Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 

Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Je…

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Jodi:  Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

I concede that the Hebrew word me…[Read more]

Jodi:  I don’t see it that way actually, Jesus coming to life again is not his begetting, him upon coming to life receiving the Spirit for all eternity is his begetting.

Luke 1:15… He will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born.

It’s true that Jesus’ birth on earth would be a begetting.  And his being raised from the dead wou…[Read more]