T8, if your photo shows exactly what a ball earth calls for…

1.  Why is there zero refraction/miraging?
2.  Why can’t you see it there every day?

Understand?  You were the one saying, “Well if it isn’t refraction, then I’d be able to see it every day”, right?  And I was the one saying, “Sometimes we have clear skies, and sometimes atm…[Read more]

The entire island from beach to mountain is all squished into that bottom quarter of the picture – exactly how it always works.  Here’s a sunset I took in San Diego…

Notice anything different about the second one when the sun is just about to merge with the ocean?  You’ll notice the width remains the same, and the top of the sun remains the s…[Read more]

Thanks D4T!  Here’s the short follow up video to the live stream…

Discussing T8’s Mount Ruapehu photo with New Zealander dazzathecameraman 5-4-19 at 00:00 UTC time…

D4T, they’re all asking for the eye height and distance. 😆  It’s like they don’t understand the point of the challenge.  I’ll be on a live stream with dazzathecameraman to discuss it.  I’ll put a notice here when we set the time.

T8:  Dig, you simply are not smart enough…  OMG, you poor boy…  Not for you Dig as it will be over your head…

I think you need to check yourself, T8.  Is this really the snarky, condescending behavior you wish to portray on your site?  Especially when anyone reading this thread can easily recognize which one of you is having the comp…[Read more]

D4T:  You admit that 0.5 to 10 is 200 times the speed but then state that even a much greater difference (billions) is still only double.

T8:  OMG, you poor boy. I never said such a thing.

Um… you did say exactly that, T8.  Nor would it matter if you said it or not, since it is a fact.  So what is so hard about this for you?  15 times 2 is 30. …[Read more]

T8: Ask yourself this, isn’t it obvious that Earth and its moon would look something like this if it were viewed from space?

There’s mine from the other morning before work.  I also got Saturn.  I see five lights in the sky.  Why do you suppose you see balls, T8?

T8:  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand the First Amendment.

T8, why do you suppose flat earth is now being heavily censored by YouTube, FB, and other social media giants… at the request of the U.S. government?

D4T: Hey t8,

What if a car went from 5 to 10 mph? You would say that is double the speed, right? What about 0.5 to 10 mph, would you still say that is double?

T8: 0.05 to 10 mph = 200 x times the speed.

So 10 to 20 is double the speed – just as 10 to 5 is half the speed, right?  But while 10 to 20 is only double, 10 to .05 is 200 times di…[Read more]

T8:  While I have already debunked the Flat Earth idea that boats do not go over the curve because there isn’t one…

Uh… no you haven’t.  Here is my question again:

Is going over a curve the ONLY possibly explanation for why distant objects disappear from the bottom up if we get farther away from them or lower our viewing angle?

T8:  Anot…

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journey42:  Even my husband thinks the flat earth is absurd! I’m not that interested with debating or conforming anyone else because their minds are already made up, but to speak to another flat earther Christian is rare and always welcoming.

My mom about flipped her wig when I first brought it up.  But guess what?  She recently figured out on h…[Read more]

Hey guys, I’ve been following the discussion, but have been unable to respond.  I will catch up soon.  D4T, you have me rolling.  🤣  T8, in the meantime, this just came out today and had you written all over it (less than 2 minutes of a big boat disappearing over the horizon)…

journey, long time!  I’m happy you spoke up.  I believe that out of any given group of 100, 25 are flat earthers, but only 2 are willing to speak up about it.  😁   You are right they are laughing at us.  I mean, look at the Disney dog Pluto on the “planet” Pluto!  They’re throwing in our faces, and laughing at all those people like Gene and T8 who…[Read more]

Thanks D4T!  I’ve already got two of them ready for my “rebuttal” video to answer the naysayers – and I’m still looking for the third one I’ve seen.  We’re not the only ones who have caught this.  We’re just the first to realize what we had!  I’ll bet there are dozens of videos already on YouTube with this rotation, but just like with my lunar ecl…[Read more]

T8:  And yet can be held in by a simple car tyre.

T8, why does NASA’s vacuum chamber need 8 foot thick concrete and steel walls?

T8:  Boats being brought back into view is a proof you offer of no beyond the curve.

Remind me again how you “debunked” it?

T8:  …this person brought the smaller boat back into view…

Yes… that’s what zoom lenses do.

T8:  However, the tanker was indeed behind the curve and doing the same with a zoom lens changed nothing.

And how exactly di…[Read more]

T8, what particular point have you debunked?  Name just one.  Then name the very best proof in your latest “I’m too lazy to look at this for myself, so I just spam the thread with videos I didn’t even watch/understand” offering and let’s discuss it.

And finally, I’m STILL waiting for your answer to WHY NASA’s vacuum chamber needs 8 foot thick c…[Read more]

Gene, if every point was absolutely right, then it should be no problem for you to just pick one, right?  So why haven’t you done what I’ve asked?

(D4T, now you know why I didn’t bother before.  Gene will never pick a point to discuss. He will just keep repeating that all the globe points are correct and leave it at that.)

Which point was the best out of those 4 vids, Gene?