T8:  If I say your math was incorrect based on someone else exposing it, then so be it. 

I see.  So then everything I say from here on out is automatically in question because SOMEONE TOLD YOU my math was incorrect in a way that you don’t even understand?  Come on, man… you’re surely better than that, aren’t you?

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I don’t know why this response didn’t post yesterday.  I posted it before the other two…

T8: Great video Mike. Well done.

It doesn’t prove a flat earth and doesn’t debunk a globe earth, but is seriously challenges Nat Geo and IIG’s proofs and observation.

Thanks.  The video not only exposes the kind of tripe that constitutes ball earth “proof”…[Read more]

T8:  Explain this.

You’re about to learn a whole bunch about the sun, the moon, and eclipses.  I wanted to finish my Salton Sea vid (which took so long because I’ve been working so many hours) first, but now I’m about to do a series of short videos explaining how the angles to the sun and moon can’t work on your ball model.  Stay tuned.  I’ll pos…[Read more]

T8: Mike, did this affect the outcome of an experiment or observation?

Or is this just a jab that really means nothing?

It is the latter, and I made a video addressing dazza’s glaring mistake.  I subsequently took all those videos down because dazza and I kept having a video battle where he’d make an erroneous claim, and I’d set him straight.  An…[Read more]

T8: Great video Mike. Well done.

It doesn’t prove a flat earth and doesn’t debunk a globe earth, but is seriously challenges Nat Geo and IIG’s proofs and observation.

Thanks.  The video not only exposes the kind of tripe that constitutes ball earth “proof”, but also shows very clearly that Salton Sea is flat and level.  I can’t stop you from bel…[Read more]

T8:  I stated that if there was any leftover that could not be explained by the math, then it could be refraction.

If your explanation relies on:  “IF the math doesn’t work out in my favor, I’ll cry refraction” – then you’ve already lost.

T8:  Your figures could be off again…  Your math hasn’t been trustworthy in the past, why would I sudde…

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You lost the minute you changed your rescue device from “refraction is bending it up over the curve” to “refraction doesn’t affect it at all and so we’re seeing what we should be seeing”.  😁

Now let me throw another wrench into your machine… 8 inches per mile squared applies to the equator.  The LA photo you’re talking about, at 33 degrees n…[Read more]

T8 ,you should have learned from Ruapehu where that land went.  It’s right there where it should be, but compressed on our z axis.  Heck, the clearer photo of Ruapehu that you posted a week or so ago shows that compressed land that’s harder to see in your photo.  Plus… what D4T just said… the elephant in the room is that we shouldn’t see AN…[Read more]

My latest endeavor…

D4T, let me know if this one is nearer to clearer.  Rich and I are planning on doing the real visual aid this Sunday.

T8, your second shot is beautiful!  Can you really not see the mountain AND the land it sits on as that 62 miles of land slopes all the way down to the sea?  Heck, I think I can see the freakin’ beach in that shot!  😃  Can I use that for another video?

We’re all flat earthers… it’s just that some of us don’t know it yet. 😁

Lol T8!  I just got done with a 13.5 hour work day, following a bunch of 11 and 12’s.  ImI short on time but will respond when I can. 😁

D4T, thanks a heap for your encouragement!

T8, what do you suppose that land mass is at the right of the mountain in your photo?  It can’t be part of the treeline of the mountain, because it can’t even be part of the mountain, right?  What then? Any ideas?

Btw, I think dazza is mad now.  I skyped him this morning about my upcoming moon vi…[Read more]

T8:  Brilliant video Mike. Plenty of legs left in this debate it seems.

Thanks T8… I’m nothing if not resilient.  😎  What did you think of the one piece of ground all the way to the right in your photo?  That’s obviously not part of the Ruapehu treeline, right?  Yet there it is, plain to see.  So that is obviously a part of this land that…[Read more]

Take that dazza and T8! 😁

Hey T8, thanks so much for finding those sites and for remembering that I got the 210 meters from you.  Very much appreciated.  I have passed the info on to dazza, and will be making a short follow up video soon.  This is the post where we went through the math for all three scenarios (10th post on the page)…  htt…[Read more]

In an upcoming video, I’ll be using the footage from that live stream where dazza zoomed out on Ruapehu in his Google Earth program, and the really tall green part shrunk considerably.  I just don’t have a lot of free time, and there are more pressing flat earth matters I wish to discuss – so I don’t know when I’ll get to it.

I’m off to dinner.  Cheers.

I don’t see your acknowledgement, T8.  Why not just say, “Yes Mike, we ball earthers base our claims of refraction/miraging on whether or not the distant object SHOULD be seen on the ball earth… and nothing else whatsoever.”

Or tell me straight that this is NOT the case.  Please do one or the other.

Also, I was just talking to dazza on Skype w…[Read more]

T8, we already discussed my mistake of saying 69%, remember?  And your plateau claims, remember?  Let me refresh your mind…

1.  We did the math with my (accurate) conclusion that we were seeing the entire mountain AND plateau all the way down to the beach – and it was 55% should be missing.
2. Then we did it subtracting 600 meters of plateau – an…

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