Ps, we are stomping on Kathi's thread about when Jesus was begotten here. Sorry Kathi……..carry on – as Karmarie would say. mike

Quote (davidbfun @ July 16 2010,07:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 16 2010,15:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2010,19:00)Quote (davidbfun @ July 15 2010,10:40)He did not call God his Father YHVH either so what does this mean? Everybody else on this site says this is the name of God so why didn't he use it (rhetorical).I still call the Holy Spirit, the…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 16 2010,13:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2010,04:38)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 16 2010,08:38)Major premise: The Messenger appeared as a flame of fire out of the midst of the bush, vs. 2Minor premise: God called out from the midst of the bush, vs. 4Conclusion: Therefore, the Messenger was GodKJSo God was a messenger…[Read more]

Mike's 5th RebuttalJack has not been able to provide a scripture that says Jesus “SPOKE all things into existence” because there isn't one.  I had hoped he would just admit that…..but that hope has disappeared.  Instead, he brings up “necessary inference”.  Well then, let's infer.  Jesus is God's Word.  We can infer that to mean one of two thin…[Read more]

I don't know why I even bother with you anymore.  You're not after truth.  You believe you have it and are willing to do anything – including ignoring scripture – to keep YOUR  man-made truth.  You are playing games again.  Did we not already BOTH agree that the “all” isn't ABSOLUTE, or it would mean Jesus has ALL POWER to the point the Fath…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 16 2010,08:38)Major premise: The Messenger appeared as a flame of fire out of the midst of the bush, vs. 2Minor premise: God called out from the midst of the bush, vs. 4Conclusion: Therefore, the Messenger was GodKJSo God was a messenger of God? Hmmmm…..mike

Hi All,I've always liked “Much of You” by Stephen Curtis Chapman.How can I stand here, and watch the sun riseAnd follow the mountains where they touch the skyAnd ponder the vastness and the depths of the seaAnd think for a moment the point of it all was to make much of meFor I'm just a whisper, but you are the thunderHow can I lay here and think…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,20:07)I'm getting a headache..Hi Oxy,Have you ever heard the Pink Floyd song “Another Brick in the Wall”?  It's about school teachers and others who throughout our lives constrain us with their expectations and requirements of who we should and shouldn't be.  They are paralleled with bricks in the walls that eventually g…[Read more]

Quote (david @ July 14 2010,18:26)Quote This thread was created by a JW to deny the authenticity of the verse, yet there is no evidence that this verse was added, but only some scant rumors.–WJWJ, are you mad?  You do realize that Matthew 28:19,20 is used by JW's all the time?  I guess you don't.  “Go therefore and make disciples of people of al…[Read more]

Quote (david @ July 14 2010,18:36)Mike to KJ:Quote First, I'm not a JW and disagree with some of their interpretations of scripture.  I think, however that they have most of it correct, IMO. . . .  Stop misrepresenting – it makes you look stupid.Mike, you are right.  We do agree on some things.

This was an ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL idea for a thread, by the way! mike

Hi All,I would have to say my all time favorite is the one I used for my signature below.  But for some reason, I love it when God shows sarcasm, so I like Isaiah 44:16-17;16 Half of the wood he burns in the fire;       over it he prepares his meal,       he roasts his meat and eats his fill.       He also warms himself and says,       “Ah&#0…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,How you holdin' up?     I want to share the results of some research I did for Jack's “pasa ktisis” thread.  These knuckleheads keep saying “firstborn of all creation” means “preeminent over mankind” without ever showing any proof of this.  And they “poo-poo” the Eusebius and Ignatius proof we show them of how the Greek words actually wer…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 15 2010,10:40)He did not call God his Father YHVH either so what does this mean? Everybody else on this site says this is the name of God so why didn't he use it (rhetorical).I still call the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit, but I recognize that SHE is probably the one who bore Jesus, NOT God the Father. And if she bore Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 13 2010,16:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2010,09:20)Fair enough, my friend.  While I believe with every fiber of my being that the trinitarian NIV would have leaped at the chance to include those words if there was a snowball's chance they were legit, I agree we have no actual proof at the moment.  As they dig up m…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 15 2010,04:29)WJ,Was that revelation relevant?JA,Why do you keep interupting my debates?  Please stop!  If it is in a debate thread that doesn't have your name on it……KEEP OUT!You posting under your post is not an excuse to interupt.  We moderators are supposed to help control spam and watch for explicite language, et…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,19:35)So have you got a testimony about when Christ came into your life?Hi Oxy,I have a testimony about when I realized God was in my life all along, but I didn't know it.mike

Quote (RokkaMan @ July 15 2010,07:09)Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2010,20:10)Quote (Oxy @ July 14 2010,19:50)Answer the question Ed, do you have a testimony of being born again?Hi Oxy,Since you say your in communication with God,ask him and tell me what his response is; OK?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou don't test God in such a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 15 2010,04:54)Quote (JustAskin @ July 14 2010,12:29)WJ,Was that revelation relevant?Was your post relevant?Thanks for the empathy by the way!WJHi WJ,Feel better. Thanks for the update…..I was beginning to think I sacred you off! mike

Mike's 4th RebuttalMy color code remains the same as I've been using on HN for months:Blue is scriptureGreen is for other sources, theirs or mineAttack:  I am still waiting for a scripture that actually says, “Jesus SPOKE all things into being”, or for Jack to admit there is none.Attack:  Jack can have his interpretation of Heb 1:8 – I'm tired o…[Read more]