Hi Ed,I'm glad we are making headway.  Even if we don't end up agreeing, I enjoy the point by point way we're doing this.Ed:Quote 1) Is not your finger both of you and you?You “cannot” deny that your finger is you; can you?No Ed, my finger is not “ME”.  I can go jogging around the block.  My finger cannot.  I can breathe.  My finger cannot.…[Read more]

Mark 10:18 NIV”Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.But thank you very much T. peace and love,mike

These scriptures that teach the pre-existence of Jesus have been compiled by Irene (Baker), Pierre (Terrarica), Wm (Seeking Truth), Mike (mikeboll64) and t8.  There are currently 48 scriptures or passages listed.  Proverbs 8:22-31 NIV22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,   before his deeds of old; 23 I was formed long ages ago,…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 31 2010,22:36)Christians do not do this, take the cross for instance, is it not a symbol/icon, what of the warnings regarding the fig tree, war, end times, these can not be considered omens? It is also noted in text of other things that are destisable, by my understanding pork is still profitable, and sabbath is…[Read more]

Quote (teflonfanatic @ Oct. 31 2010,14:09)Before i make my response I study with the Jehovah's witnesses but i'm not baptized as one, also i've been reading up on the history of the church and it's various doctrines and i've looked at the bible students.Hello and welcome T,The Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians.  They follow the scriptures to the…[Read more]

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Gene:Quote It is interesting how you change the word God to lower case lettering when in fact the original GREEK was written in (ALL) upper case lettering. YOU have no idea which is being referred as Lower or Upper case there nor does anyone else either. If you apply that to you reading then what do you come up with?Okay, here we go once again.…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Oct. 31 2010,20:55)Logos is Jesus is God is spirit is the word, is the truth is life is good is all and in all. All is God except mans created evil.Hi Tim,God is Holy, right? Are you saying everything except man's created evil is “Holy”?Is every lamb in the world “Holy”? If so, then why were only some of them to be accepted as…[Read more]

Ed:Quote Hi Mike,What verse is verse 9 in Acts?Jesus spoke “The Word” of God.My point is that you try to use Acts 5:4 as proof that the Holy Spirit is God Himself.  Verse 9 makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is OF God, not God Himself.  Do you agree?Ed:Quote Jesus also spoke his own words.So then Jesus was a flesh being.  And the Holy Spirit wa…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 01 2010,08:06)I agree! My point is that Satan will use the literal words of God in an attempt to snare usYes Kerwin. Satan will use both the words of God……AND our own human reasoning to snare us.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 31 2010,08:36)Mike if i say you SHALL be, does that mean to you you already are. Why would GOD use that language if Jesus already was a SON OF GOD,Hi Gene,First, this was a case of God speaking about the unborn son of David at the time, therefore the “he SHALL”.When Paul quoted Samuel, he just kept the words the way…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 31 2010,08:36)Mike…………So if i said the cars roots and origins were of the engineer JOE BLOW that to you doesn't mean that is where that car came from or where it originated from right?Sure it does Gene. But if you said “The car IS the root OF Joe Blow”, then it means something different. Do you agree?mike

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,08:56)hi mikeit seems they all end up running away,into silence.PierreHi Pierre,I'm sure in this case, Kathi is just enjoying her weekend. She doesn't run from anything………except the truth about who we are to worship. mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 01 2010,01:39)SO now lets read John 1:1 and use that in the translations of it. It would read like this ,  IN THE BEGINNING WAS WORD AND THE WORD WAS WITH POWER AND THE WORD WAS POWER.Actually Gene, John 1:1 would then say, “IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH…..THE……POWER, AND THE WORD WAS…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 01 2010,01:44)The word BECAME means CAME TO BE, GODS words (CAME TO BE) (IN) Jesus.No Gene, The scripture would then say the Word “came to be”…….FLESH. No matter how you define “became”, it never ends up saying the Word came to be “IN someone who was flesh”. mike

Hi Gene,Thank you for the honest and respectable post.  It is a far cry from most of your posts that just regurgitate the same old tired accusations.  And because of that, I will seriously and honestly give you my thoughts on what you said.Gene:Quote Mike………….If i called you a snake does the make you snake ,  If i said the Ship She is be…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 29 2010,18:37)May God be with the medical staff's efforts or they are in vain.How true Kerwin. I will pray the same.mike

Hi Kathi,15 The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.” 17 The LORD said to me:…[Read more]

I don't think it was the Thanksgiving part, but what we did after.  It was very shameful.But here's a scripture for you DK.9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices…[Read more]

Did they ever figure out what caused it?mike