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    Oops, sorry Georg.I saw Baker and just assumed. My bad. :)mike

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    Quote (Baker @ Nov. 15 2010,00:57)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2010,16:28)Mike Boll,He became poor in he died for us when we were still guilty of wickedness.  He died for the though wee were vile so we would have the chance to be reconciled to God.He could have ascended to heaven as Enoch and Elijah did but instead chose to die for us.kerwinJesus…[Read more]

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    Kathi:Quote But Mike,Do we have explicite orders not to worship Jesus, Yes, the order that says to worship ONLY Jehovah is an explicite order to NOT worship anyone else but Jehovah.Kathi:Quote Surely God knew that millions would worship the Son with the Father Surely He did.  Maybe that's why there are so few finding that narrow road? :)Kathi:Quote…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2010,14:25)hi Mikei do not want to be a pain,but could you define what the universal church of Christ is??Christ +144000= universal church ??why universal?would she be not only earthly ??PierreHi Pierre,You are never a “pain” to me, but instead a very big help many times.Mark 16:15 NIVHe said to them, “Go into all the w…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Nov. 15 2010,16:37)Mike!  It is not what the Catholic Church stands for that it is a Universal Church.  It is what they do.  First of all they worship and pray to Maria.  Maria is on the same level to them, as V=Christ is.Hi Irene,From Dictionary.com:World English Dictionary catholic  (ˈkæθəlɪk, ˈkæθlɪk)   — adj   1.  universal…[Read more]

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    Ah, but we are specifically told to honor him. And we even know that all knees will bow to our King.Now, if only we were told to worship him, I'd be on board with you. But since we have very clear and explicite orders about who to worship, I will follow my orders like a good soldier. :)mike

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    Bump for JANow, here is the very simple question JA.  Col 1:16 says all invisible rulers in heaven were created through Jesus.  Now aside from God Himself who isn't a “creation” and Jesus, who could not logically be said to be created through himself, is there any logical SCRIPTURAL reason for you to insist this doesn't include the angels?  If no…[Read more]

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    Hi Kerwin,I don't know what you are referring to. mike

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    Hi Mark, No I do not worship Jesus. And you have very adeptly pointed out to Kathi that if she doesn't think Jesus is God Almighty, then she worships him against what the scriptures teach.I've got a better translation of John 1:1 for you:John 1:1 NWTIn beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.If you would like to…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,19:45)Mike, The second Psalm is clearly the day Jesus was risen from the dead. Listen to what scripture says, no-one else, no dictionary, no word study… just scripture,Now that's what I'm talking about Shimmer! :)  Just scripture!Okay, here's some scripture for you:Matthew 22:41-46 NIV 41 While the Pharisees were…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 16 2010,09:38)Romans 1: 3-4 states that Jesusnwas declared Son of God when he was raised from the dead, as is easily discernible from the three verses in various scripture books which state, 'You are my Son, today, I have begotten you'.Hi JA,I hear you loud an clear. But slow down dude. Take it a point at a time. And…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Nov. 16 2010,03:06)Hi Mike! This is of the subject, however, since you did not answer me on the Poll about the creed, I would like for you to go back and answer about the catholic church. It is still on my mind…..Thanks….IreneHi Irene,Yeah, I've been sidetracked lately. But I did repond to your post last night and will look…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 16 2010,09:46)God is spirit. It doesn't say that he has a spirit body as far as I know.One reason that no one can see God is because he is eternal and is spirit. Whereas, Jesus is the image of the invisible God in BODILY form. By reason of being contained in a visible body makes one visible. If you were an eternal spirit, then how…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Nov. 16 2010,09:16)1Cr 15:40   also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial one, and the of the terrestrial another.Hi JA,I liked your poem.  Good work.  And I understand you thinking Paul was only talking about the risen Jesus and the risen elect, or saints.But Irene's quote of 1 Cor 15:40 cl…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2010,15:32)Hi Mike,In point #4 your reverting back to your old words again.In the beginning (of Mike) was Mike's mind,and Mike's mind was with Mike,and Mike's mind was Mike.What I have written makes sense; do you agree?Yep Ed. It sure does…………..IN BIZZARO WORLD! :DOh brother. You and Gene just kill me man. :)I'm tired,…[Read more]

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    Well, if JA could be a convert to your religion, then by all means, use my thread to convert him! :DBut if he says “No”, then will you keep the non-preexistent element off of this thread? :)mike

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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2010,07:32)mikeif God start to create would this not mean that he start to do thing like adding separate things (all things) beside himself?because why would  he create something in himself ,his God not complete by himself??PierreI agree with both of your points Pierre. What God has created has to be “outside” of God,…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 15 2010,07:25)Mike, does God have a body ? Of course God doesnt have a body. God is spirit. Jesus has a body (And as I said I believe Jesus also has wings) But God ? A body ? NO. See, did you believe God had a body before, or is this just because you were 'led astray' on the forum ?Hi Shimmer,Thanks for your opinion. But…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2010,14:40)Our arguing with Mike is like beating our heads against a brick was, I believe he is so deluded it is impossible to reach him at this time, but who knows nothing is impossible with GOD. I believe it will take GOd to Do that Though.Wow Gene,Thanks for your vote that there's still hope for me! :)By the way,…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 14 2010,12:57)Quote (Baker @ Nov. 14 2010,03:01)Mark!  Since Mike and Marty are so busy all the time, I thought I would say what they believe.  Nothing wrong with that….Why are you mad at me, you never went back to the other post, and answered it, why? In message to the devil….Irene, I am not mad at you. I just wanted t…[Read more]

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