Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2010,07:31)true but He tells Peter to feed HIS sheep, He doesn't say to feed His Father's sheep but His sheep.Does Jesus refer to the ones that his God has given him out of the world?Scriptures say “Yes”. In fact, Jesus says, “they were yours, but you gave them to me.”mike

Mark:Quote TO ME EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND; BY ME EVERY TOUNGE SHALL SWEAR,You have a long way to go, but I'm glad you're taking the journey. “God” means “mighty one”.  So just because Jehovah is “God” doesn't mean that no one else can ever be called “a mighty one”.  Paul calls Satan a “god”, but that doesn't mean Satan is THE God Almighty, right?  …[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 18 2010,20:37)1)  They were worshiping the spirit of God, not Elisha. Also the spirit of God in David, who could do nothing in himself but only with Gods sprit.Moooooo2)  You can  second  guess the writers of the bible. I will accept it as Gods word to me. MoooooHi Mark,1)  So why wouldn't you think the same thing abou…[Read more]

I know nothing about this, but I've always thought a flat national sales tax would be the most fair.Those who have steak for dinner will pay more tax than those who can only afford hamburger.And those who drive a Bentley will pay more taxes on that car than those who can only afford a Chevy.Makes sense to me.  And look at all the money we'd save…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2010,11:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2010,09:17)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2010,17:11)Hi Mike,Life, my friend, life!   …Not the dirt!Could the verse be implying that the Father is resident in the animals as well as every else?OH!  I understand now. (1)Well Ed, here's how I see it.  If the Father is resident IN the animals – or…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 18 2010,10:40)Yes Mike,I agree with that. How else could His presence come and go from the tabernacle in the desert, or how could He pass by Moses? How could He leave?That's what I've been trying to say. I don't know the answers, but it seems logical that if God doesn't have some kind of “outer perimeter”, then…[Read more]

Was I watching a real close up of a section of a human brain?Are those colors real, or like infrared photography?At any rate, Praise Jah! Our Creator is nothing short of brilliant and magnificent.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 17 2010,01:32)JA…………….I totally agree with you on that. lets see how Mike can override that and keep this going to further is preexistence ideologies going. peace and love…………………………………………………geneGene,I've asked you nicely three times now. If you try again to make this…[Read more]

JA:Quote No, Jesus was not always superior because at one point he was 'made lower than the Angels' and even under the rule of Satan and subject to Sin.So according to you, Jesus was nothing at all until he became a man?This is what Paul said,9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while,So yes JA, FOR A LITTLE WHILE…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2010,19:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2010,07:27)Hi Kerwin,I don't know what you are referring to. mikeMike Boll,Your comment that the thread is obviously a discussion of the preexistence level of the superiority of Jesus.  I myself did not understand it that way.Okay. Well that IS what the thread is about. And I've…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,16:21)Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 15 2010,05:30)To all,Check the 'Mike vs ja' debate. Mike asks a quesion but when he gets the answer that 'HE' doesn't like he rephrases it, or simply ignores the response, and continues to claim that he has not been answered.Hi JustAskin,Yes, you are 100% correct; Mike does do that!But I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,16:11)Hi Mike,With this type of Post (you explain), you need to separate his Points into a Post for each and explaining them all separately.This fry's both WJ and SF when you do this, because they both think their many point long Posts have much merit.Yeah Ed. I have to admit that I like the way you just add numbers to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 18 2010,11:35)What some are saying is that these people were wrong to worship Jesus. Even though these are many examples of biblical people worshiping Jesus yall seem to know better than they do from your special insight, reasonings, rationales, intrepretations and spins. But these people WORSHIPED Jesus. Its states it very…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2010,15:14)Mike or Pierre,Show me one scripture where someone worshipped Jesus and God, the Father got mad at them and punished them.  Show me one prophecy where this was to happen and make sure that Jesus/the Son of God/the Messiah is specifically identified.  Or, stop all the hot air and accusations.No Kathi,I've s…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 16 2010,17:38)Hi Mike. Yeah I understand so far. They were expecting Messiah to be a man only, not one from Heaven. Not a son of God from Heaven.Hi Shimmer and JA,Matthew 16:15-18 NIV 15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17…[Read more]

Shimmer:Quote “Sons of God” in Job….The original translation has it as “Angels of God”You have it backwards.  The Hebrew text says “sons of God”, but most English translations render it as “angels”.Shimmer:Quote Jesus said that Angels do not engage in sexual activites, in Heaven.Jesus actually doesn't mention sex, but says:Mark 12:25When the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 18 2010,03:20)To all those who think that a Spirit has a body.Time for definition…What are you saying that 'a body' is?Hi JA,I'm saying any “outer perimeter” that distinguishes where one spirit being ends and another begins. The spirit's “outermost extremeties”.It doesn't have to be a “body” that any of us would…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,06:58)I believe Jesus was spirit but he became flesh……not in form only but in reality…..the first to ever do so from out of the spiritual realm……unique in that he did.Hi Shimmer,So then that would mean that spirits CAN procreate, right?  Because if Jesus was the first “reality flesh”, then those angels who…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 18 2010,04:43)Here is your answer..YES, spirits dwell in bodies.Everyone here has a spirit and everyone here has a body, so yes, spirits dwell in bodies…there are earthly bodies and heavenly bodies and they contain spirit.Hi Kathi,That's also how Gene sees it, and I concur. But what about God? I know he isn't LIMITED to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 18 2010,00:15)If GOD were to retract His Spirit all flesh would die.Hi Gene,”Retract it” to where?  You see what I'm after here?  If God can choose to fill you or not to fill you, then somewhere,  there is an “edge” of what is God.  God could choose to fill everyone and everything on earth except you Gene.  He has that…[Read more]