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    Hi Gene,Aren't angels “ministering spirits”?mike

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    This is really none of my business at all, but BD, why are you trying to make scientific sense of scriptures in the first place?  As if God's power is limited to only doing things that mere mortal man's feeble mind can plot on a chart or something. :)God also made the sun move backwards so King Hezekiah could see the shadow moving forward 10 steps…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 23 2010,05:11)(I see you sneakily try to say that Angels are also made in the Image of God elsewhere…)JA, is Jesus an angel in your opinion or not?  You say he is and was just an angel like the others, right?Yet scripture says he was “in the form of God” before coming as a man.  Scripture says he is the image of the i…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Dual Nature of Christ 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 20 2010,20:11)I will address that issue later but first I wish to point out that God promised David that one of his descendents would always sit on his throne and thus Jesus is really David’s descendant.Hi Kerwin,Sorry it took so long.  Yes, Jesus is David's descendent “according to the flesh”.  At least three times in the NT,…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 22 2010,12:48)The point is, people imagine these Nephilum arent here today, because there are no huge groups of Giants walking around. However, it depends what the word stature means. As were the days of Noah so shall it be, who knows ?Hi Shimmer,You are right.  I checked with NETNotes (cringe JA, cringe) and while the…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Nov. 22 2010,07:12)I feel a bit more rested and less clouded as i have been for awile due to alot of circumstances.Hey D, I am truly happy to hear that. :)  Praise Jah!And I know we got down to the nitty gritty about Micah 5, but this worship thing isn't so tough, is it?God says to worship ONLY Him.Jesus says to worship ONLY…[Read more]

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    Kathi:Quote Mike,What do you mean that I can't refine the question?  I don't like your question, it is loaded and not an honest question.  I think civil worship vs. religious worship is much more clear to describe the differences of worship.Hi Kathi,Can you find me a lexicon or Greek dictionary that lists as definitions for proskuneo “civil w…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 22 2010,11:31)They are the child’s gifts even though it is possible the child will not live to personally receive them.Hi Kerwin,  I disagree.  And I think you would also 100 times out of 100 if we used the same words in secular situations.  The gifts in your scenario are bought for a living breathing fetus, so it is alre…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 22 2010,10:31)Mike………..That simply means it was His before he ever was born, He (HAD) It in the Plan and will of God. Trying to force the text is one of your greatest problems here,Really Gene?  Oh no you dit'ent! :DDid you REALLY just FORCE the text by saying a non-existent thought in someone's head POSSESSED…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 22 2010,11:34)Mike……….But that again is your problem you never did hear me or anyone else for that matter.  IMO peace and love…………………………….geneI'm still waiting for the link Gene.

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    JA:Quote is that noone her, except Kerwin,… on this point…can understand Dimensions…what did you do in School? Did you not learn anything other than basic math to infant grade….then why poopooh another who has a greater understanding..Did you hear that Gene and Shimmer?  Translation:  Shimmer, Gene and Mike!  You guys are way less in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 22 2010,10:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 22 2010,09:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 22 2010,07:55)You say we have not anwered your (THROUGH CHRIST ) Question when in fact it has be answred many times by me and Martian and JA,I'm sorry Gene,I didn't hear you……….where is the post where JA answered my purple question…[Read more]

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    John 8:42 NETJesus replied, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come from God and am now here. I have not come on my own initiative, but he sent me.”John 16:28 NIVJohn 16:28″I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.”

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 22 2010,09:51)It is Jesus’ glory and not Jesus which John 17:5 states that exists in God’s presence in the beginning just as in my example it is my present and not me that is in my mother’s presence before I am born.Listen to you guys.  Jesus clearly says “I HAD” glory “IN YOUR PRESENCE”.What does the “I HAD” part mean guys?K…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 22 2010,08:09)And JA, you said to Mike,Quote Funny how the Nephilim looked liked humans but more powerful and big, giant…the poor women, did they survive the birth, or did the Nephilim 'burst out of the womb', 'Alien, …the movie…, style'In Korea, many women are 'tiny'. When the Americans went over, they litterally…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 22 2010,04:49)You don't believe that the Angels created bodies for themselves before they were able to procreate only because you want to say that 'Angels' procreate. No more than for that reason.No JA.  The reason I don't believe it is because it is not said in the scriptures.  Moses never says the angels “created bodies f…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 22 2010,07:55)You say we have not anwered your (THROUGH CHRIST ) Question when in fact it has be answred many times by me and Martian and JA,I'm sorry Gene,I didn't hear you……….where is the post where JA answered my purple question again? ???mike

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    By the way, if you agree that I won the debate, then it is confusing to read this that you wrote:Quote Is Mike still going on about losing a debate…?What would make you say something so opposite to the truth as that?  ???mike

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 22 2010,05:03)Yet, even as i conceded that Principalities also alluded to a  person, you still continue….the debate was then over… One page….a record…Hi JA,Let me get this straight.  I don't remembering you conceding that the word “principalities” DOES refer to persons.If that's the case, then you agree that the a…[Read more]

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