Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 04 2010,04:01)Here is an example , Jesus said “it is harder for a “Camel” to go through the eye of a needle that for a rich man to enter the kingdom of GOD” , Nearly all Greek texts translates it that way, but if you go to an Aramaic text (which was the language spoken in that day) it cone out this way , ” it is easer…[Read more]

Amen.

Hi Laurel,Good post and I agree with you on this subject.  You can read the last paragraph of my opening post in this thread (first page first post) and know where I stand on this issue.And while I enjoyed reading the scriptures you posted, I think you left out the most important scripture of all concerning the divine personal name of our Elohim…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 04 2010,09:29)You are frightened to show ignorance and that is very bad…you make yourself an antagoniser by opposing things you don't understand … just for the sake of trying hard not to say, 'I don't understand'.This attitude makes it also very difficult to believe anything else you say…This is exactly what I think…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 04 2010,12:31)'Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings, with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. – Isa 6:2Yes Shimmer. And this is also where I got the fact that these angels also have hands. Remember when I posted that?Is 6 NIV6 Then one of the seraphim…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2010,09:18)Spirits have spiritual bodies ,what ever that means,this is and as been my answer for all times.Mine too!

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 03 2010,21:50)It doesnt matter if Angels etc have bodies or not does it ?Hi Shimmer,I don't think whether angels have bodies or not changes how we are to be saved – so in that sense, it doesn't really matter.But the scriptures have lasted through the centuries for one reason Shimmer.  Because God has purposed this to happen.…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 03 2010,20:15)Bad, that you can't just accept it, agree and build on it, instead of trying to muddy the waters…did you learn this from Mikeboll? He learnt it from KJ and WJ… Beware lest you also fall prey to such underhanded methods.Tsk, tsk JA.  Just when I complimented you on your good behavior lately.  I guess it w…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 03 2010,20:06)(The demons were in the man…it also shows…Mikeboll, that MANY demons occupied the SAME 'Space' in the man…how big was this man then and it also shows that the 100 or so demons had very little power as even with the number of them they only made the man so-so strong???)Hi JA,Now let's think about this.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2010,16:16)JAthe discussion is not what kind of form or body,but that they are separated individuals,YES PIERRE! That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.  JA, listen……..I don't deny your dimension theory – because I don't know how it all works, and you could be right on this – who knows?But no matter which dimension they're…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2010,11:59)Mikeyour item two ;is not accurate in any translation,it seems the translators were at some point corrupt.but what is true if you truly believe the scriptures ,it will put things in your mind wen needed .so that you know in your inside what is the truth.PierreYeah, I agree about #2 Pierre. There are many…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 03 2010,12:09)Do you want to make this tread only for Mark and Mike????Peace IreneNo Irene. But I would like to keep it on topic. Right now we're dealing with scriptures that say God is our Savior and scriptures that say Jesus is our Savior. Mark thinks this means Jesus is God Almighty. Do you? Why not?mike

Hi Pierre,I agree with you in principle, as I also notice many people here who will take the word of the early church fathers or some other mere man over the scriptures themselves.But remember that any time you are reading scripture, you are reading a MAN'S best guess at translating what the actual Hebrew and Greek words said. The man Kerwin is…[Read more]

Yes Pierre, That is what I've been saying all along. What you misunderstood is that if there are even TWO beings in existence, then they must have “bodies” that separate one from the other. This is the point I'm trying to drive home.Now, since there are billions of beings in existence, then there must be billions of bodies separating them from…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 02 2010,23:34)Ya'll come on down here, and I'll show you how to crappie fish. I can even show you how to pour your own jig, and go out the same day and catch something on it.      Hi Mark, Where is “down here”?    I grew up on the Mississippi and lived to boat.  But my idea of fishing was putting a bell on the pole, kicki…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 02 2010,13:40)Give to all, for God wishes His gifts to be shared amongst all. They who receive, will render an account to God why and for what they have received. For the afflicted who receive will not be condemned, but they who receive on false pretences will suffer punishment. He, then, who gives is guiltless.Hi…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 03 2010,01:27)Mike………Another thing i looked at NETBible and they are slanted to trinitarian thinking and also force text to meet their preconceived ideologies of preexistence and divinity of Jesus.Yes, NETNotes IS a trinitarian site.  You just have to read between the lines Gene.  The Greek, Hebrew and the LXX a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 03 2010,01:10)Mike…………Ther is a lot of places where CHRIST Should be translated as The Anointing SPIRIT of GODHi Gene,I'm not doubting you, but I asked for scriptures. Can you give any that are CLEARLY not about Jesus Christ?mike

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2010,18:29)Mike Boll,I hope to look into what you state about “going forth” as it is the first I remember hearing about it.Do you believe the Spirit of Christ is the hypothetic Spiritual being Christ?Hi Kerwin,No.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 02 2010,15:31)Mike…………So who is this ROOT of Jesse spoke of by Isiah then?  You failed to answere that Surely Jesus according to you must have been before Jesse also right?peace and love………………………………….geneI guess I didn't think it was an actual question Gene. Of course Jesus is the…[Read more]