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    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 05 2010,14:37)There are exactly five variants for God in The Hebrew Masoretic texts…1) Strong’s 426: אלה (ĔL-äh) elah: corresponding to 433; God:-God, god.2) Strong’s 433: אלוה (ĔL-ō-äh) eloah: from 410; a deity or The Deity:-God, god. See 4303) Strong’s 6697: צור (tsû-är) tsoor: a rock; a refuge(house); X(times) mighty Go…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Bump for Gene:Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 02 2010,00:57)That should be with the (NATURE) of GOD , Meaning He had GOD'S NATURE (because he recieved it at the Jordan River GOD was (TRULY) IN HIM T8  By the Spirit he recieved, and he never emptied himslef of that nature either,Then why did Paul say he did Gene?  ???  Gene, you didn't answer this qu…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2010,13:20)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 05 2010,13:13)Mike Boll,It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit is what makes both Jesus and his students the light of the world but I will try to take time to test that tenet.Kerwin………….You have it right brother.peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 05 2010,13:13)Mike Boll,It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit is what makes both Jesus and his students the light of the world but I will try to take time to test that tenet.Okay Kerwin.Read through John 1 and see if “Holy Spirit” fits into all that is said.1.  Did the Holy Spirit BECOME flesh?  (Keep in mind the words d…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Hi Gene,Messiah and Christ mean “anointed one”. Anointed means “set aside for a special purpose”.You are confusing those who have received the Holy Spirit with those who have been anointed by God. Not everyone who receives the Spirit is God's “anointed”.mike

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2010,13:24)Mike……….There is no such thing as a SPIRIT BODY There is Spiirt (IN) BODIES. A spirit does not have a body it is what is (IN) a body guiding it and giving it intellects. No Angel has a SPIRIT BODY He has a BODY with SPIRIT (IN) IT Just as we DO.  You are not understanding what SPIRIT really IS.…[Read more]

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    Yes Gene, blah, blah, blah. Answer it in my post to Kerwin in the pre-existent thread. I explain the fact that Jesus also said his disciples were the “light of the world”.mike

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2010,13:18)this does not separate the words to mean ,afterward, it is part of the sentence to show what happen after the angel got involve with the women of men.Hi Pierre,But to understand it your way would mean that Moses said there were giants in the world already. Then afterward, when the angels got together with…[Read more]

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    Hi Pierre,You know where I stand on this from the many pm's we've had about this subject.  But I thought I'd put it out here in the open anyway.First of all, I don't think the truth of the matter would disturb the way any of us worship God through His Son and Messiah, so this is just my opinion.I understand Moses to be saying that the Nephilim…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,15:05)The Gematria I will use has a direct correlation to the AKJV Bible;Hi Ed,Is this the same KJV that replaces God's divine name with “LORD” almost 100% of the time? The same KJV that renders “child” instead of “servant” in reference to Jesus in Acts 4 times because they didn't want their “God #2” to be a “servant”…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 05 2010,06:51)The problem you have is this is one of those Trinitarian scriptures that cannot be refuted.Whoa!  Slow your roll there Mr. Keith!  :DThere is much evidence that supports “Christ” in 1 Cor 10:9, but at least as much evidence that supports “God” and “Lord” in that scripture.But to say that Jesus was the “…[Read more]

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    Hi Laurel,You made some good, logical points there.I couldn't find anything specific about the Israelites knowing YHVH Elohim during their days as slaves in Egypt.  But these might suffice:Exodus 1 NIV17 The midwives, however, feared God and did not do what the king of Egypt had told them to do; they let the boys live. 20 So God was kind to the…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 05 2010,10:03)Mike,How many Angels can you get to dance on the head of a pin all at the same time?Legions and legions….How?JA,SPIRITUAL BODIES must encase SPIRITS, right?  So how ever many angels can fit on the head of a pin would fit there WITH THEIR SPIRTUAL BODIES INTACT.  Where ever they go and what ever size they m…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 05 2010,06:45)What I ask is this:If Jesus 'created' the Angels, why is he compared to them such that he is later said to have become 'so much better than them'?In Zecharia 3: Satan and 'the Angel of the Lord' stood before God.You are just not getting it JA.  JESUS DID NOT CREATE ANYONE OR ANYTHING!Now after God created…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 05 2010,09:31)No Mike, they do not have bodies, that's why they are called SPIRITS…JA, Paul uses the term “spiritual bodies”.  Do you think the sun, moon and stars are “spirits”?  ???  What would a “spiritual body” encase JA?  I would guess a SPIRIT!  :)  But apparently not you.  mike

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    JA,40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor. 42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Dual Nature of Christ 15 years, 11 months ago

    Okay Pierre,I must have misunderstood you. Sorry.mike

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 05 2010,05:00)So, 'All' doesn't always mean 'ALL'.I agree.  Nor does “everything” always mean “EVERYTHING” according to this scripture:1 Corinthians 15:27 NIVFor he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put ever…[Read more]

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    Hi JA,Aren't the “all things” that came FROM God in 1 Cor 8:6 the same “all things” that came THROUGH Jesus?  If angels came FROM God, then angels came THROUGH Jesus, wouldn't you agree?peace and love,mike

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2010,18:29)Mike Boll,I hope to look into what you state about “going forth” as it is the first I remember hearing about it.Okay Kerwin,While you are looking into “goings forth”, I'll move on to another scripture.John 8:12 NIVWhen Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me w…[Read more]

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