And what do you say about the topic t8? Do angels have bodies or not according to scripture?mike

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 06 2010,07:27)1Cr 15:44   It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. here it is made perfectly clear…..Hi Irene,You are right – it is made perfectly clear.  JA is thinking that those of us who are raised to a heavenly hope and are therefore like the a…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 06 2010,06:13)Mike,You and Terra have turned into lunatics due to your unscriptural thoughts and posting.And that's where I stopped reading JA. If you want your points to be read and addressed, then lose the insults. Act like a Christian for a change.mike

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 06 2010,06:06)And why should we deem it strange that between bodies adapted to live here and bodies adapted to live in heaven, there should be a difference, like that which is seen between the objects which appear on earth and those which appear in the sky?”Thank you Shimmer,This from Barnes sums it up quite nicely. This is…[Read more]

Yes Pierre,We must do what God commanded and what His Messiah taught us to do……..not what we want.mike

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 05 2010,23:00)You WANT TO SAY that Jesus created ALL but are forced to say 'Through' instead.What is the matter with you JA?  It is the SCRIPTURES, not ME that says all things were created BY God, THROUGH Jesus.If you have a problem with this wording, then attack God about it, not me.  I am only the messenger here.And if y…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,I think Jesus was referring to how fast and without warning that day will come……….just like the flood.If you want to know what to do to be saved, Micah tells us,Micah 6:8 NIV8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.   And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy   and to walk humbly with your G…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 06 2010,05:16)for lies cannot be sustained against Scriptural truth.You are correct sir.  That's why only you and the non-preexisters think the angels weren't created through Jesus on this site JA.  And that is why only you think angels don't have bodies on this site JA.Are we ALL wrong?  Are YOU the ONLY one who un…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 06 2010,04:44)Just remember how hard it is to make others see what are obvious truths and see how they twist and writhe, and when you debate/discuss with me, remember not to do as they do.Be honest, you will learn quicker that way, and in an honest, godly way.Who won our debate again JA? Post nicely my friend. We can…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2010,04:56)it seems that you holding the blade of the knife you are pointing ,

Hi All,I have decided to go back to not even reading JA's posts that contain derogatory personal attacks.  I have tried taking the “higher road”.  I have tried fighting fire with fire.  The first does nothing to rebuke JA's poor behavior, and the latter makes me feel “dirty” and “wrong”.I remember in the “Does God Procreate” thread, when he was be…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 06 2010,00:57)Mike……..I have posted scripture to support what i am saying , you just don't seem to have the ability to understand them.Listen very closely to the words of scripture Gene and JA.Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Can either of you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2010,03:47)Hi Mike,In Revelation both Jesus and “The Word” of God are mentioned…Yes Ed.We've talked about this before.  The “word of God” can be Laws and Commands that God has spoken.  It can also refer to God's Chief Spokesman, who is also called “the Word of God”.If you and Gene need any help deciding from the conte…[Read more]

Hi Irene,I hear and understand what you're saying.  But remember Jesus said he did not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.All I'm saying is that if Laurel wants to keep the Sabbath and only eat certain foods, she is not going against any Law of God, right?And if we don't keep the Sabbath and we eat whatever we want, we are not breaking…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 06 2010,03:22)That is because you distort John 1:1 to mean the WORD was JESUS Not GOD.Well, we KNOW that Jesus was “the Word” in Revelation, right? We KNOW that a word cannot become flesh, right? And we KNOW that God didn't become flesh and dwell among us with the glory of His own Son, right?Now, stop diverting things…[Read more]

Gene:Quote Mike……….You do not teach what scripture say you zero in on a single word and try to build a teaching on that taking it completely out of context.  No Gene.  I “zero in” on ALL OF THE WORDS.   We read that “the Word became flesh”.  You read “the Word came to be IN flesh”.  We read, “the glory I HAD in your presence”.  You read,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 06 2010,02:50)Mike………My only answer to you is to read Philippians 2, completely and try to get exactly what Paul was saying by that.No, no, no.  Not so fast there “word-twister”.    You said that the word should be “NATURE” and not “FORM” in Phil 2.  Then you went right into saying that Jesus NEVER emptied him…[Read more]

Gene:Quote Mike……….The word Became , simply means (CAME TO BE) and anyone should know a WORD is (NOT FLESH) i believe a child could understand that.Yes Gene, a child CAN understand this, but apparently not you, huh?  Gene:Quote The word of GOD (became ) or came to be (IN) Flesh , why because a word can never in a billion year (BE) FLESH. Good…[Read more]

I “teach” what the scriptures say Gene. Nothing more and nothing less. Try that sometime. Try “teaching” scriptures without the “It says THIS, but it really means THAT” crap.Do that, and you'll come around alright. mike

“ROCK” translates into “God” in English? Where do you find that? mike