Quote (PaulCohen @ Dec. 13 2010,12:42)So you don’t want to converse like a responsible human being, much less answer for yourself like a responsible Christian. Duly noted, Mike. You can’t answer without exposing yourself for the phony you are.Hi Paul,So I take it you are unable to answer my very first question in the debate thread? Let me ask…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 14 2010,09:13)Did you know the Book of Revelations was doubted by some in Early Christianity ? Also that it wasn't untill 508AD when it was accepted ? That in Eastern Christianity it is not read out in the Church ? And that Luther wanted to take Revelations out of the New Testement ?Interesting.

Hi JA,I hope I satisfactorily answered your direct question.  Please answer this one for me:Daniel 10:13But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.I just read your “7 dimension” post in “pre-existent”.  You say s…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2010,23:49)First you say “i agree Paul is talking about “BODIES” being sown perishable and bieng raised imperishable.”  Then you say “but don't forget that the body that was sown a natural body will be raised a SPIRITUAL BODY”.  Mike it is a “BODY” is the POINT! A spirit does not have a BODY, it is what is (IN) a B…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 14 2010,02:02)Mike! That is very true. It is unfortunate that not all can see it. But again the truth is that God does not all want to see it. And that is why I think after showing a Person three times, and they still don't see it, then it is not in God's plan. It is very hard to deal with, since we have Family that are in…[Read more]

Hi JA,Nice to see a short and “to the point” post from you.  I don't believe you to be mentally challenged……….nor am I.  So it's sad that we must fight with each other.  I would like to offer a truce.  Let's keep our posts and questions to each other short and to the point, and we will then be able to easily find the areas or scriptures tha…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 13 2010,10:21)Irene, Mike and Ed.  Ok. I will post this and then it's all I have to say on this topic really this time I mean it. I dont agree with everything writen here but it has some points.Hi Shimmer,Okay, I read every word.  The author's understanding of “flesh and blood” referring to “fallen man” is absurd.  Where ar…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2010,10:23)Mike………..That is you normal way of not answering (ALL) the Points i brought out , what about the (IT) that was sown in weakness and the (IT) that was raised in POWER , what was the (IT) speaking of MIKE.The “IT” is talking about a body Gene, just like you said.  And while you might take the word…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 13 2010,09:18)The greatest of things are in the smallest of detailsYou know who else is said to be in the details, right? Thanks for the kind words.  I too would prefer to debate differences in understanding with someone who is not into belittling and insulting me.It seems hard to find someone like that here.  I hope F…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2010,05:42)Mike here is another point you need to consider why would Jesus tell his disciples that every hair in there heads were numbered, what for or what would be the point for them to be numbers if not to be reconstructed at a latter date.Hi Gene,Jesus is telling us how important we are to our God even as human…[Read more]

Hi Gene,I appreciate that you took the time to really address my first point.  That's the only way any of us will get to the bottom of any dispute.  We must both be willing to acknowledge and respond to the other's points.Unfortunately, everything you said boils down to this quote:Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2010,05:42)The second man Adam (…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 12 2010,13:11)Hi Mike,Francis is a male, the only way he will accept an argument with you is if you first agree on terms and definitions so if you do not accept the trinity at least for the sake of argument you will not have an argument he can accept. So the idea is you have to show him the invalidity of the trinity of…[Read more]

Hello Fran,I hope your wife is doing well, SIR!    (Now I know – plus Asana also just told me.  I wasn't aware of the different spellings for male and female “Frans”)Quote (francis @ Dec. 12 2010,11:09)1)… The Nicene Creed of 325 does in fact mention the Holy Spirit/Ghost. At the very end. You are correct that it does.  And I also have used the…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 12 2010,20:15)Yes to Mike the God of God would be the same for me as the spirit of God or the word of God or Jesus of God. All one, all same!Ahhhhhhh!  I don't know about you Tim and Ed! The “God of God”?  Does your God have a God Tim?  How about yours Ed?  Mine doesn't.peace and love,mike

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 13 2010,01:04)Shimmer!  yes, Jesus came in the flesh.  yes, Jesus did rise from the death in the flesh.  But NO He did not go to Heaven in the flesh.  He appeared to Thomas in the flesh because He did not believe that Jesus rose from the death.  Believing that flesh and blood can enter into the Kingdom of God is false.Hi Iren…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 12 2010,20:56)So to believe that He was risen and went to Heaven in spirit only, you are holding onto some of the Gnostic teaching's.Hi Shimmer,I DO believe that Jesus came in the flesh. He was in the form of God as the Word and then emptied himself and became flesh. But can he still be flesh when the scriptures say he is…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 12 2010,10:15)Mike, why is Jesus called 'the heavenly man'?why not just 'a heavenly Spirit'?The word “man” is not in the Greek JA.  The Greek says, “As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.”  And the translations that insert “man” are not meaning a “…[Read more]

Gene, not that ANY of this moderator business has anything at all to do with you, I will address your points anyway.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 12 2010,09:24)Mike……….Well i am glad about that or you would already have kicked JA of the site it appears, as you have others like Martian i believe.  I have given 3 blocks in the many months that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2010,09:21)I agree that events involving angels involve them having bodies and those claiming they do not need to explain those occurrences.Bravo!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2010,20:06)Could it be that Jesus was raised with the body he died with but then later ascended to heaven in his new spiritual body?Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2010,09:01)It is doubtful as the body Jesus was raised with did not perish even though it bore the same wounds that had proved fatal to it before. Ah, but the bodies…[Read more]