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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 16 2010,01:35)Mike……… Why change the wording Where Jesus said (A SPIRIT) does not have flesh and Bone as you see I HAVE. I notices you replaced the word (A) SPIRIT with (THEY) (as representing a Person of some type).What are you talking about Gene?Jesus said A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONE AS YOU CAN SEE I…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2010,18:01)You seem unable to understand the concept that there is both natural flesh, bone, and blood and spiritual flesh, bone, and blood. Hmmm…………I don't remember reading about any “spiritual flesh” in the scriptures Kerwin.  I DO however remember reading that flesh cannot inherit God's Kingdom.  And I know t…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 15 2010,23:11)Jesus in scripture here is 1- Lord, 2-Savior, 3-Recieving Glory(from me also), 4 -God's right arm, who became man to redeem me from my sins. 5 -To him be the Glory(I can say that, see what Peter says above), both now and to the day of eternity. AmenHi Mark,1.  Jesus has the title “Lord”.  So does his God.  …[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 15 2010,21:45)I do not take scripture that I know is right and tell you if you don't follow it you worship God in vain, which is a Judgement. Ezekiel 3:20 NIV“Again, when a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before them, they will die. Since you did not warn them, t…[Read more]

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    Hi Shimmer,I brought it over here for you.Hi Shimmer,That is wild about the mules, huh?  Who knows?  And I'm going to read Enoch sometime.  I read a couple of chapters at Ed's urging, and came across something interesting.You know how Moses told God he didn't want to speak to Pharaoh because he was “uncircumcised of toungue”?  Enoch tells of an…[Read more]

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    Hey Shimmer,Did you read what I learned from the book of Enoch? I posted it in the “Nephilim” thread I think.mike

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    By the way, Tim.I never heard back from you on my last two posts.  (#1 and #2 on page 14)I realize you are having a discussion with Shimmer and a war with Ed here, so take your time.  :)  I was really just curious if you understood my explanation about “the Lord YHVH, God Almighty”.mike

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    Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 15 2010,09:08)I don't know how you all make those quote boxes, that would help me.Hi Tim,Hit the Quote button above your “post box”.  Paste what you want to quote behind the that shows up.  Then hit the Quote button again after the paste.  (The Quote button will have an asterick on it to show it is the end of the quote, no…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 14 2010,13:56)Hi brother Mike,This is where I question the sanctity of N.T writers when applied Hebrew scriptures by taking them in bits and parts by twisting them from their original meaning. Do you see the truth in my arguments?Hi Adam,It might look like that to us in certain scriptures at this time.  But I've learned to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 14 2010,19:28)I said it before and I'll say it again, please please please leave me alone. I love you- MarkWait a minute there mister!  I resurrected the “worship” thread to discuss some things with Kathi.  I didn't “invite” you over there.  But don't think for a minute I'm going to just read your posts about how it's ok…[Read more]

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    To All,I'm going to take Irene's advice that Pierre has apparently already acted upon.  This thread was a learning experience for a while, but seems to be nothing but a platform from which JA can launch his verbal assaults.Gene, we have nothing more to say about this matter, for you believe angels have bodies, and angels are spirits.  You b…[Read more]

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    Quote (PaulCohen @ Dec. 15 2010,10:58)For those who are interested and want to know the answer to Mike's question, you can find it on page one of this thread, particularly in the section entitled: Christ Exposes Man's Polluted Doctrine. But those like Mike who are only interested in their polluted pet doctrines don't read or consider what is set…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 15 2010,08:45)Mike,Can you show me where Paul says that Jesus is Spirit now.It's in the scriptures JA.  I've posted it in this particular thread about 20 times already.  Find it yourself.  I'm done with you until you can grow up and answer my questions.  Yeah, that's right.  Don't think I didn't notice how you ran from the…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 14 2010,20:41)Oh, and Mike,In my Bible, it does say, Heavenly 'Man' and there is no footnote saying 'Man* Word added'.See Mike, why does verse 49 say 'we will bear the image of the Heavenly Man'.I guess it really makes no difference if “your Bible” adds a footnote or not JA.I read the Greek. And “man” is not in verse 48…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 14 2010,20:23)What Mike has failed to admit, is that it is exclusively talking about 'Mankind', and specifically about those of Mankind who 'WILL' be risen at the first resurrection and become like Jesus, risen into a 'Spiritual Body'.What JA has failed to admit is that Paul says:1 Corinthians 15:47-48 NASB The first man is…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2010,17:19)You argue that Jesus’ resurrection was not the final resurrection but was a resurrection in which he woken up to live his worldly life for a while and thus he is not the first born from among the dead.Hi Kerwin.  What I argue is that Jesus was the first ever to be raised FROM THE DEAD to ETERNAL LIFE.  As I und…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 14 2010,15:55)When a man dies His “SPIRIT” goes to him who gave it. Tell us was that a BODY the went to HIM who gave IT or a spirit body.Tell me Gene, how does God know which spirit is yours and which spirit is mine so He can give back the right spirit to the right person in the resurrection?  What is it that…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2010,04:46)Gene,Also you deny these scriptures…Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; As it is written, Behold, “I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence”: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Rom…[Read more]

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    Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 14 2010,06:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2010,12:43)Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 07 2010,04:05)(there is a conotation of more than one person in the name Elohim)Hi Ted,Not even close.  I have become quite knowledgeable about this subject through the process of debating it with Kangaroo Jack.The word “elohim” can either mean…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 14 2010,12:05)I wanted to stay away from some of  the critical condemning sprits on here, but now I miss the people I love on here.Hi Mark,2 Timothy 3:16 NIVAll Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,2 Timothy 4:2 NIVPreach the word; be prepared in season…[Read more]

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