Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 18 2010,15:11)Just Askin,Where is the scripture to support your beliefs.  From what I see there is nothing but the speculation of man based on their imagination.  Pierre at least explained his beliefs.  You instead speak your own word and do not attempt to support it with scripture.  I am here to learn from God and not you or…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 18 2010,12:13)They assume he did a body switch, but produce no scripture to prove it,Hi Gene,I also assume that Jesus went to the bathroom as a human being, but cannot produce any scriptures to “prove it”.The fact is that Jesus was clearly NOT a spirit when he was raised from the dead. And the fact is that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 18 2010,11:55)And it's actually a really important thing. It seems that most here agree with the JW meaning of this that Jesus is spirit only. Well I don't. And it's something that I feel I have to defend for some reason.Hi Shimmer,What do the JW's have to do with this?  Are you trying to slant other people's beliefs by…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 18 2010,01:46)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 18 2010,01:01)Jesus Christ “is” come in the flesh. The “is” there shows it was not something He did only in the resurrection of His body, for He continues to live on in Heaven in that same glorified flesh and bone body today – up in Heaven, at the right hand of God, as we are repea…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 17 2010,22:34)Mikeboll, I don't know if what you are doing is deadlyHi Mark,I liked your post and especially liked your prayer of “the olden days”, when you were suffering.  Many times, hope is born of suffering Mark.  And as I didn't suffer in my early life, I had no relationship with God, nor did I think I owed Him or n…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 15 2010,21:47)I thought Jesus gave us eternal life. If we have eternal life then what is on loan to us that goes back to God?Jesus died to “erase” our sins in his God's eyes, thereby allowing Jehovah to still be righteous in ever calling any of us “righteous”.None of us on this earth have received that “eternal life” yet,…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 16 2010,14:44)I still feel the writers of N.T were Trinitarians in some form or other as their scriptures support most of the Trinitarian doctrines as even our brother WJ argues here based on the same scriptures to prove Jesus' preexistence and divinity. John 1:1-3,14; Rom 10:9-12; Phil 2:5-11, 1 Cor 8:6, Eph 3:9, Heb…[Read more]

Quote (francis @ Dec. 16 2010,06:26)Also, just as you used the phrase “in passing” above, which seems to pass judgment, you are now using the word  “neglected”.  Both…. the word “neglected” and the prase “in passing”… appear to make direct judgements about the state of  mind  and the intent of the signers of creed 325.  And without any evid…[Read more]

I know! Trippy! I think Pierre is mad at me about the Nephilim topic. I can see what he thinks and why he thinks it, but without a scripture that says God forbid angels from mating with humans after the flood, I'll remain undecided.

Hi Shimmer,I just noticed you edited your answers a little. But I think my response will still make sense.Also, do you belive angels have wings?mike

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 17 2010,10:38)Mike!  I am thinking that it just does not matter what Scripture you or I put in front of them, they are blind and don't want to see it, or can't see it….I am so done with all of this….Peace and love to you IreneI'm with you sister!  Pierre already beat us to the punch and got out of here a week ago.  When my…[Read more]

Hi Shimmer,You said that angels DO have a body, just not like ours. That is true and scriptural.You said that Jesus DOES have a body. That is also true and scriptural.Now know this: Angels ARE spirits. Jesus IS a spirit.Spirits have spiritual bodies, just like the scriptures say, and that's all I've ever said since I started this thread. Same…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 16 2010,21:24)Mikeboll, Jesus is god the son,Mark, “God the Son” is a man-made term.  It is not scriptural.  But that's okay for you I guess – because your beliefs about Jesus are also man-made and not scriptural.I'm tired of reading you whine about how I shouldn't condemn or be judgemental – all in a post in which you b…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 17 2010,07:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2010,19:18)God is the One who actually did the saving through Saul.HaHa MikeBut Jesus is not a Savour by proxy is he? Did anyone run around calling Saul their personal Savour?while we wait for the blessed hope–the glorious appearing of “our great God and Savior, Jesus C…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 16 2010,21:25)Mike, most of Christianity agrees with JustAskin and other posters here.  But you are trying to say JustAskin and other's are wrong ? Who here agrees that angels don't have bodies, Shimmer?  I thinks it's ONLY JA, for you play around with the word “form”, which would be a body of some sort, right?  But none of…[Read more]

Gene, Like I told Kerwin, Jesus was obviously not raised from the dead as a spirit. But Jesus IS now a spirit.So what other option is there Gene? Oh, let me CLARIFY. What other SCRIPTURAL option is there?mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 16 2010,05:16)No it doesn't change the meaning at all.Are you blind?  One says YHVH will be a sanctuary and a stumbling stone to Israel and Judah.  Kind of a contradiction, eh?The other says IF YOU TRUST IN YVHV, He will be your sanctuary and you WON'T stumble on the stone he placed in Zion.  No contradiction th…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2010,21:49)And Paul apparently made a mistake by combining the two scriptures.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 16 2010,02:57) So then how can we believe anything Paul says?  Do you dispute the FACT that Paul “merged” two different scriptures together?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 16 2010,02:57)When you understand by the…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 15 2010,14:28)Yes you may be right in saying after all the translators were also human beings like us could have caused bias and errors. But the problem is N.T writers like Paul and Gospel writers were keen in finding some scriptural support for Jesus being the Jewish Messiah. Therefore they tried their level best to find…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 16 2010,02:05)Here he never says resurrected Jesus had flesh and bones rather he says he became life-giving Spirit just like God who is the source of all life. Here is the problem with the writers of N.T. One side Paul says flesh and blood which is animated soul can not inherit Kingdom of God on the other side Gospel…[Read more]