Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 21 2010,06:30)Remember that Jesus said:”Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.Matt: 11:11 NASBWouldn't that make John the Baptist be the example to follow over Jesus if Jesus was just a…[Read more]

Hi All,Ed is right in this case.  “Per cent” simply means “out of a hundred”.  The maximum percent possible is 100.  So you “Jesus is God” people could claim that Jesus is 50% man and 50% God, but not 100% both.A peekapoo cannot be 100% poodle and 100% Pekinese, right? peace and love,mike

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 21 2010,21:21)Hey MikeBolle: Please don't suffer for Jesus. Jesus suffered for you to not have to suffer. Its a blatant slap in the face of Jesus to neny his suffering as for you, so you don't have to.Hi Tim,May God bless you with all your fleshly needs and peace and understanding.I'm sorry my friend, but what you posted…[Read more]

Are the posters here aware that Irene, Pierre and myself are NOT saying Jesus wasn't raised with a flesh body?We ACKNOWLEDGE the scripture where Jesus said he still had “flesh and bone”, and that spirits DON'T HAVE FLESH AND BONE.We are only waiting for the rest you to follow the OTHER part of that scripture.  The part that says, “SPIRITS DO NOT…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2010,18:17)so let God s spirit guide you like i say wen you wish to continue ,it is your call.

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,18:04)Yet here is a third scripture from her source which speaks of flesh being resurrected.Quote For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 21 2010,17:57)Mike, you say the man I quoted agrees with you, and that it is what you have been saying all along, but you havent been. This man say's Jesus is flesh and bone…a flesh and bone resurrected body which is glorified……..as most of Christianity also believes…….. where you say he is Spirit only,You NOW say…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:27)I learned from the best (Mike)Thank you SF! But you have a lot more left to learn. Patience my dear boy. peace and love,mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:24)Jesus says that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He also says,“He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father” (John 14:12 MKJV).Question: How can He go to His Father if, as He said, “Believe Me that I am in th…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:08)Ed J, Do you mind? i was speaking to JA to supply the verse he was referring too. Thank you, stick to math.Hi D,1 Corinthians 1:20 NIVWhere is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?Colossians 2:8 NIVSee to…[Read more]

Here I am doing what I hate to do.  We have now got this discussion spread all over the place.  And I haven't even responded to half of your last post.  I just won't do it like this Francis………….I'm sorry.  First and foremost, I'd like to get through this “Economic Trinity” concept.  Please show me the scriptures.As far as the other thin…[Read more]

Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hebrews 2:9 (Amplified Bible)But we are able to see Jesus, Who was ranked lower than the angels for a little while, crowned with glory and honor because of His having suffered death, in order that by the grace (unmerited favor) of God He might experience death for every individual person.This is saying that…[Read more]

Hi Francis,Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) First of all…  It has ALWAYS been taught by Orthodox Christianity that Jesus… the Divine part of Jesus… had temporarily and voluntarily submitted to God the Father while Jesus was Incarnate here on earth. I don't know or care that much about what MAN taught.  What did the SCRIPTURES teach?  …[Read more]

Hey Pierre,I'm struggling through Revelation now.  And I'm even reading it aloud to myself and praying for God's guiding spirit to help me understand. I'm reading it slowly and even going over certain sentences many times.This is my third time through it, and I'm still not even close to being able to finish our private discussion on it.  I'm S…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 20 2010,21:32)If the gifts of God through Jesus are not for now but for the future, the future is never now!!Hi Tim,First, we are told we must suffer many things.  Only THEN will this occur:Revelation 22 NIV    12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 21 2010,13:06)One more thing, Georg agrees with you on John 17:5.Yeah, I saw where you posted that in the other thread. But that doesn't mean you're wrong either, Irene.I just ASSUMED that John went in order of events that happened. You have opened my eyes to other possibilities.Either way, our bottom line was the same that…[Read more]

Listen guys, these are the facts as attested to by the 50+ Trinitaian scholars who translated the CEV, and the Greek words themselves:Titus 2:13 COULD have Paul calling Jesus “our great god”, or the scripture COULD have Paul talking about “our great God…….AND……….our Savior Jesus Christ”.Add in the fact that we KNOW Jesus would be called…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,07:32)Funny how Mike says that the Father has not appeared to man yet here he claims the Father will appear to man.Revelation 21 NIV3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself wil…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 20 2010,18:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 26 2010,06:53) Do you remember Isaiah 9:6?  THE Almighty God Jehovah had already foretold 700 years before Jesus came as flesh that he would be called “mighty god”.  So, even if Paul WAS calling Jesus “our great god and savior”, then he would have only been fulfilling the pr…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 20 2010,18:41)according to Mike, God has not appeared to men, and God has never been seen.  verse 11: implies that he has appeared to all men. Verse 11 says God's GRACE has appeared to all men. (In the form of Jesus Christ, of course.)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 20 2010,18:41)The bible doesnt cliam that God will…[Read more]