Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,14:26)wen Christ dies he dies physically I mean his body is destroyed ,I don't think so Pierre.  Because of these scriptures:Acts 2 NIV31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. Acts 13 NIV35 So it is also…[Read more]

Hi Ed,It sounds to me like Wm is saying what you said about Jesus being 100% God's Son at the same time he is 100% our brother.But neither yours nor Wm's post are dealing directly with what is understood by 100% God and 100% man IMO.mike

Hi Pierre,I didn't understand where you were going with that last post.mike

Hi Francis,May God bless you with peace and understanding.I dropped the ball, brother.  I fell for a diversion tactic and I'm now angry at myself for doing it.  This “Economic Trinity” thing was an unknown concept to me when you mentioned it, and my mind went right into forgetting Micah 5:4 that we were discussing, and many other scriptures that t…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,10:51)Quote (mike @ 1)Also, how can Jesus GO TO his Father if he already IS his own Father – as if that makes any sense in itself. Of Course, because they are the same person, as Jesus plainly described to Philip.Then John 14:12 just doesn't count?  Jesus was LYING when he said he would GO TO his Father?mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,10:50)Mike wouldnt Ed J's Math gemteria count as a “hollow” and “deceptive phiosophy”, which “depends on human tradtion (math gemteria)” than to depend on Christ?I ignore Ed's numbers, D. He adds the word “the” sometimes to make the numbers add up and omits it other times.mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,11:41)isnt it you the great mike that says we cannot limit God?D,Tonight you've already posted that I'm “the best”, and now this?   Are you developing a man crush on me?       Love ya bro,mike

t8,Is that the math they teach down under?      Sounds like you've maybe had 600% of a bottle of beer!

And Shimmer,You might be right about whatever I posted before……..I don't remember anymore.  I know I've learned alot from this thread and have altered my understanding as I've found and been shown scriptures. I'm right now not sure about angels “materializing” bodies at will. It could also just be a matter of “stepping into our dimension”…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,11:26)Mikenow let get clear ,wen Jesus died his flesh body wen it is a sacrifice to God,since he died ,his spirit returns to God say scriptures just like all of us,(were it goes )so wen Christ reappears he has a other body,in flesh and bones,now was he transformed into that body ? to me personally i think he just…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 22 2010,12:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,11:57)Are the posters here aware that Irene, Pierre and myself are NOT saying Jesus wasn't raised with a flesh body?We ACKNOWLEDGE the scripture where Jesus said he still had “flesh and bone”, and that spirits DON'T HAVE FLESH AND BONE.We are only waiting for the rest you to…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,11:37)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,05:29)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,18:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2010,06:45)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 20 2010,17:06)Quote But Keith and SF were implying that Titus 2:13 taught that Jesus was God Almighty Himself, and I'm sure you don't think it means Jesus is the…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,11:55)But you also CLAIM: that God does all these thigns THROUGH Jesus.  wouldnt that be the SAME thing?  you also claim that Satan is a god of an age?  woudlnt that also be the same?  Zues was the RULER of them all. isnt your theology alike? D, I've only showed you what the scriptures say.  What do you want…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,19:01)Mike,In the End its clear that Titus 2:13 speaks of Christ solely, unless you want to ADD what scripture doesnt say, which is a fallacy.So the 50+ Trinitarian scholars who translated the CEV are wrong and you're right, D? And what about the other part of the post? Since we already know from YHVH that…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,18:57)1. They did see Him as Jesus.  Scriptures states that No man has ever seen God himself, but the Son has.Listen to yourself here.  No man has ever seen God, but many men DID SEE GOD……..”as Jesus”.  The scripture don't say, “No man has ever seen God………..as a Spirit”.  They say that no man has eve…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,18:44)Jesus is God, the Father is in HIm, as he is in the FAther, they are the same person, there isnt a time they were ever seperated.That's sillier than believing in the trinity, D. The Father IS the Son and the Son IS the Father. God prayed to Himself. God is His own Priest. God died but then raised…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,18:40)So Jesus is a God but not the God?? Its a simple, direct answer MIke, thats all im looking for. Can't you read, man?    Kathi, could you tell D what I very clearly and emphatically said as my answer to his question?Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,18:40)What difference does your belief have with G…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 21 2010,15:56)When you say that He is the only begotten God, that distinguishes Him from the many gods.Very well then, Kathi. But I will save the capital G for God Most High.And just as “only begotten god” distinguishes Jesus from all other gods – as well he should be – “God Almighty” would not only distinguish Jehovah…[Read more]

Hey D,Can one be 100% God and 100% Servant of God?Can one be 100% God and 100% Priest to God?Can one be 100% God and 100% Anointed One OF God?Can one be 100% immortal and 100% mortal?Is YHVH God any % human being?Is the Holy Spirit any % human being?Bottom line:Can one be 100% Spirit Being and 100% Flesh and Blood Man?It's ludicrous, and you know…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2010,03:01)The reason John the Baptiste was not greater then Jesus was because John did not have the full anointing of GOD Spirit placed on HIM as Jesus did, and He was not the one called to the glory of being the first born from among Men to be born into the kingdom of GOD Jesus was given that calling before he ever…[Read more]