Quote (Baker @ Dec. 24 2010,06:06)The “flesh” body of Jesus had done its job, it took upon him all of our sins, and it had to remain dead, or else we will all remain dead once we die. God would not allow that body to decay as all of our body's do, so he deposed of it, for more then one reason. Look what people do with the shroud of Turin.Hi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 23 2010,12:59)John said to Jesus, even BEFORE he baptized Jesus, that Jesus should be the one baptizing him. I believe it is clear in John's mind which one was greater…that was Jesus even before Jesus' baptism.Not only that, but Jesus said this about John AFTER he was baptised. That's why I was trying to clarify what…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 23 2010,11:55)3 “Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, He is coming,” says the Lord of hosts.Hi Kathi,I just went through a similar situation with Keith in…[Read more]

Gene, I can't understand your post. Are you saying that after Jesus was baptised at the Jordan he became “greater than John”?mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,12:28)None of this is difficult to understand once you get rid of all the false teaching you learn a long time ago by Mystery Religions. IMOGene, I read the Bible for the first time in my life about two and a half years ago.  I read it by myself, alone, in my own bedroom. So why is it that you and I understand…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,12:17)Mike you need to go read what Jodi wrote clearly explaining about Satan , go check it out.I listed about 10 scriptures for Jodi in that thread Gene. She didn't answer one of them. So I bumped it for her……..twice.Then she bailed and I've heard nothing from her.Do you remember the thread title? I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 23 2010,09:51)EdYea but this thread was created to discuss the debate between Mike and Francis and you are taking it off topic aren't you?WJHi Keith,While we're waiting for a response from Francis, SF has been trying to explain to me how there is no trinity, but that Jesus IS God the Father.  Don't you have any…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,11:30)Mike saying,  an Angel or Messenger is a Ministering Spirit does not mean they do not have Bodies,Gene,You say I don't know what I'm talking about?  I DO believe that angels have bodies.  But scriptures say that angels are “spirits” Gene.  Do angels have bodies?  YESAre angels spirits?  YESDo spirits have…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,18:00)6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning the Emanuel, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the Emanuel; he came only as a witness to the Emanuel.Hi Kerwin,Where does the “Son of God” and the “Messiah of God” fit in?  John was sent to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2010,05:34)Hi WJ,John knew Jesus personally, if he meant Jesus instead of the “HolySpirit”,why would he not of said so; don't you think?Hi Ed,John also called him “the Son of Man”, the “Son of God”, the “Lamb”, the “Word of God” and the “Lord of lords and King of Kings”………….among other things.Why didn't John just say…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,15:06)You miss the secound part of Matthew 11:11 since those that are in the kingdom of heaven are also born of woman.Those in the Kingdom of God are “born from above” Kerwin.  (John 3:3)mike

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,14:34)so to carry your load you first have to love God and to love someone you have to know him ,RIGHT?Yes.

Tim,Are you willing to die for the name of Jesus and his God?  Will you suffer physical torture without denying Christ?mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,19:03)I dont believe so.  but than again i can ask you the same question, was Jesus lying in what he told philip? he asked, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?  or should we omit that?Hi D,Absolutely not!  We shouldn't omit it, but understand what was meant by it.John 14…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 23 2010,09:26)Mike Boll,The disciples believed they did since they thought to prepare dwellings for both them and Jesus.Matthew 17:1-8(NIV) reads:Quote After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 23 2010,08:32)It comes by way of Mikeboll not finding anything in Scriptures to say that 'Spirits' have bodies.JA, this is really very simple.  Are you ready?1 Corinthians 15:45 NIV45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.2 Corinthians 3:17-18 NIVNow the Lord is t…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,01:44)The whole concept of Spirits having bodies is false, Spirits have NO BODIES Spirit is what is (IN) Bodies,Gene says:  Angels DO have bodies.Gene says:  Jesus DOES have a body.Gene says:  Spirits DON'T have bodies.Scripture says:  Angels ARE spirits.Scripture says:  Jesus IS a spir…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,17:19)Mike Boll,I can see your case to state Job 19:25-26 cannot be used as a proof scripture on this issue.  Can you give me the scriptures that state that no man or flesh has ever seen God?  Scripture does Mosses did but I believe it was speaking of an angel at that time, Exodus 33:11 and Deuteronomy 34:10.  It co…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,18:18)but not with the body he had offered to God for our sins,that body died done with,no one can take back his voluntary sacrifice to God ,it would belong to God not to you because you have given it to him,Hi Pierre,You may be right………..or not.  The carcasses of the sacrificed animals were pitched away…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,17:14)The only other case I know of the observation of a person who rose from the dead is the case of Mosses as the Archangel Michael disputed with Satan over his body thus showing he died the first death and yet he is living and in the flesh when speaking with Jesus at the Transfiguration.  Elijah is also there and…[Read more]