Jodi:  First let me say that just because God is able to do something doesn’t mean that He did…

I agree 100% with that part.

Jodi:  …and the scriptures tell me that He most certainly didn’t.

I disagree 100% with that part, but that’s what we’re here to discuss.

Our common ground is that God COULD create sons for Abraham (or David) out of al…[Read more]

You’re right, Danny. In fact, I walked away from this thread about 3 years ago, even stopped talking to him all together for two years for that very reason.

But then when he started talking about how vaccinations and tyrannical martial law rules for a flu with a 99.9% survivability rate were a good thing, I could no longer remain silent.

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Gene, clouds are NOT water, as you yourself made clear by stipulating BETWEEN water, ice, and steam/vapor.

Just like a ribeye steak is NOT a cow.

But more importantly, why don’t you address the main point that I keep screaming at you guys?  The waters above are ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars.

Are clouds ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars? No?  W…[Read more]

Hi Jodi. My point was not whether it would be common to say that these 100% human sons of Abraham pre-existed as stones. My point, which you have reinforced with your comments about Adam and chromosomes, was that God can create a human being out of stuff that already exists in a non-human state.

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Proclaimer: Clouds are water.

No they aren’t. God gathered the waters below into seas. Seas are water, clouds are not. Did anyone ever ask you to give them a drink of water and you handed them an icicle or shot some steam at them?

Proclaimer:  And yet God exists in heaven / raqia. So the waters are above God? Your understanding is obviously…

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Proclaimer:  Slander is defined as a lie that hurts a person’s reputation. I’m telling the truth.

I already gave you the perfect solution to prove that you are telling the truth… Quote my statement that was intentionally designed to deceive Berean into believing something that I know is a lie.

Proclaimer:  Chop chop. Bring back the sun.<…

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I saw that too.  I haven’t forgotten about you.  I’ve been looking forward to this for a very long time.  I will respond soon.  🙂

Danny: @t8

Proclaimer, you said to Berean: “Mike is trying to deceive you…”

Mike said:
“That right there is a very deceptive statement…”

I totally agree with Mike.

Thanks Danny.  Tater knows exactly what he’s doing.  He’s scared, he knows he already lost the debate, and he’s trying his best to obfuscate with ad hominems.
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Mike:  <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>As it stands by default, your answer is as follows:  “There is NOTHING in the heliocentric model that can even come close to being even very liberally construed as ‘waters above the sun, moon and stars’.   You are correct that the model to which I subscribe is NOT compatible with the world the Bible describes.…

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Mike:  Wait… are you saying that if the light source moves behind the cloud/haze layer that you can clearly see in your photo (or even behind a mountain or some other tangible obstruction) we should still be able to see the reflections from that light source on the water?

 

Proclaimer:  Nope.

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Mike: What is your son’s opinion on the fact that you stalled a Hot Seat debate for 6 weeks because you were “unable” to find an answer that was one day and one post removed from your question – despite me repeatedly drawing maps and sending screenshots and doing everything I could think of to show you where that answer was?

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Proclaimer:  You should have just mentioned the angle of light or more specifically ‘the angle of the globe to the sun’ explanation and tried to debunk that instead.

Tell the truth next time. Don’t make out that the scientific explanation is the distance argument because that isn’t true. Rather, that is a common misconception which you took adv…

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<span style=”color: #ff0000;”><span style=”color: #000000;”>Danny:</span>  <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>@t8</span></span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>proClaimer, you are a deCeiver.</span>
<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>It’s not hard to C…</span>

 

Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>@dannyd</span>

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Proclaimer:  Mike, my 12 year old thinks this is funny and told me you have lost the debate even on this one point. You refuse to perform the “bring back the sun experiment”.

What is your son’s opinion on the fact that you stalled a Hot Seat debate for 6 weeks because you were “unable” to find an answer that was one day and one post removed from…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike……Explaine how the seasons are different at the same time,  in different places in your “flat earth”…

I just did that for Berean.  Go back and study, and THEN let me know if you have any questions about what I showed him.  Thanks.

Gene: The earth tilted on its axes explanes it “perfectly,”…

The fact that it doesn’t was also just sh…[Read more]

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Interesting, Proclaimer, because I have DIRECTLY addressed all 3 of the points you listed.  I guess that means all those condescending words you intended for me, God put right back onto your own head… just like the curse of Balaam.

Chop, chop, Tiger.  The questions are NOT going away.

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Hey Kathi, I have a lot of posts to you on page 25 when you get back to the thread.  Thanks.

I was just scrolling through some of the posts on that old database.  They are from 12 years ago, and I was enjoying the blast from the past.  But look at me and Gene – even 12 years ago…

We could have had that exchange just yesterday!  Some things never change.  Gene is still wrong after all these years, and I’m still right.  😉

You’re welcome, Berean.  Keep the questions coming.  I certainly don’t know everything about how our world works, but I know enough to conclude that it certainly isn’t a spinning ball orbiting the sun in an elliptical pattern.

As for the sun reflection post I just made for Proclaimer, I messed the graphic up.  Here it is again – the right wa…[Read more]