Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,06:25)Mike,This guy you debating with is walking all over you.I've been laughing my head off reading your futile attemptsHi JA,So then in YOUR opinion, Francis has made some good trinity proof points?  Because for him to be walking all over me, he must be defending the trinity very well, right?  Do you agree with h…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 25 2010,06:03)I Knew you were too weak, I knew you never believed what you said earlier, and I knew you followed man.Hi Shimmer,I believe that Jesus was raised in a flesh body.  I'm not sure if it was the SAME body he died in yet, and I stated this thought a month ago in this thread.  And I hope to be addressing Georg and D…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,05:56)Mike,What is a 'Spiritual body'.Asked and answered very clearly and completely by me about 15 pages ago.  Go look it up, I'm tired of repeating myself to you when I know you still won't comment on the actual points in my post even if I did post it all for you again.miike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2010,05:28)Mike……….You could not be more Wrong, as you are about other things , My Dad was a Baptist and then left that church and believed (but never joined) the WWCOG , Both of those churches believed in the Preexistence of Jesus,Ahhhhhh. So your Dad had it right all along, and you just wouldn't listen to…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,04:50)Mikeboll,So you are saying that 'Spirits' are material beings.Not only me, but the Mr. Pyles that Shimmer quoted, and many others.Will you show me the scripture that says spirits are “immaterial”?mike

Quote (Irene @ Dec. 25 2010,05:34)Mike!  Since Scriptures say that first the earthly body and then the spiritual body, I would think Jesus was a spirit after His resurrection.  I agree with you since it is scriptural.  But the spiritual bodies Paul was talking about was the ones that would be received by those who are resurrected to heaven.  O…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,05:36)Trinity has fallen in this forum, and yet Mikeboll still can't defeat a defeated antagonist.JA, what purpose does a comment like this serve to anyone?  You are nothing but a hate mongerer.  You thrive on this sort of childish behavior.  WJ cannot give a personal name for the Holy Spirit.  And that's it.  Th…[Read more]

Hi D,I forgot this one.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,06:55)Do you see how Isaiah 40:10 talks about the “reward being with Jehovah” when He comes?  Just like Revelation 22:12, right?  Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,18:57)Doesnt it say THE same THING about Jesus?Yes it does, but with a twist:John 17 NIV1 After Jesus said this, he looked t…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 24 2010,18:21)Jesus himself quotes that no one has seen the LIGHT, but it is he that dwells in the Light, in other words also, he is the IMAGE of the invisible God. What scripture about Light are you referring to, please.  And if Jesus is the VISIBLE IMAGE   OF   THE INVISIBLE GOD, then he is not that invisible God he…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,04:24)Mike,What is the 'body' of Jesus composed of?A body is composed of some sort of Material…is it not?Mike, what is the definition of 'body'?JA, a body is something that separates one being from another.  Spirits cannot be “immaterial” like you suggest.  So, just like a flesh being has a flesh body, I would i…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,04:19)You have fallen from  trying to prove 'Spirits have bodies', down to 'Jesus has a body in Heaven'.Jesus is a spirit in heaven.  Jesus has a body.  You do the math, JA.  And still no educated and mature answer to the scriptures I posted?  That's what I expected from a child like you.  mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 23 2010,13:48)Your just adding to scripture here. This is not what he told Philip. D, why did you not answer to John 12:44-45 that I quoted?  How about when Jesus said “the Father is greater than I”?  How could Jesus say that if he WAS the Father?  Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 23 2010,13:48)Didnt God speak when Je…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 24 2010,18:26)we know that Jesus DIED, but yet did he really die spiritualy? Jesus died in the same way all human beings die.  His spirit went back to God like all our spirits do, but he was really, really DEAD.  Paul is emphatic about this point.  He teaches that if Christ didn't REALLY die, and wasn't REALLY ra…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2010,18:26)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 24 2010,04:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,06:52)Hi allI must say that in all the time I have been here I have not seen anyone with the knowledge, and the gracefulness in presenting that knowledge as I see Francis has done in this debate.And finally I understand what the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2010,18:17)Mike I just whent in this debate and when trough it yes you saw the diversion,economy ??orthodocty christian? I did not see them in scriptures ,Hi Pierre,Yeah, like I said in my last post to Francis, I dropped the ball.  But I've picked it back up now, and I will wait for Francis to show me SCRIPTURAL proof…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 24 2010,18:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 23 2010,20:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,20:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 23 2010,09:51)EdYea but this thread was created to discuss the debate between Mike and Francis and you are taking it off topic aren't you?WJHi Keith,While we're waiting for a response from…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 24 2010,11:32)Keith,Even the Athanasian Creed is not saying what Francis is saying.Excerpt from the creed:Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 24 2010,02:29)The important thing to me is Dennison believes and sees Jesus is God, like the Father. I disagree with “Modalism” though the end result is Jesus is God.That's why I added the smiling emoticon after my question.  I KNEW that would be your answer, Keith.    As long as D believes Jesus is God, then all is…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,14:53)Milke ……….Unlike you i have been reading and studying the word of GOD sense my childhood about sense i was about ten years old and as a teenager studied with my Father, who would talk about  the word of GOD  all the time,Ahhhhhh!  And there we have it.  I would be willing to bet much money on the fac…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 23 2010,19:39)You take a verse saying Jesus is Spirit.Align it with a verse saying Jesus is Man.Take another saying they will be like Jesus, man will be like Jesus…then conclude this that 'Man = Spirit'.Okay, let me add some more info for you JA.1 Corinthians 15:45 NIV45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a l…[Read more]