Quote (david @ Jan. 01 2011,17:57)Quote You would have to ask, why did Jesus come “in the flesh” in the first place?I believe it was to give his human life as a “ransom” sacrifice Georg.I haven't seen any movies where a ransom is given and then taken back.  A ransom is something given in exchange.  He gave up his perfect human life, his human b…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 01 2011,17:56)Mike, why did you tile JA for every insult He gave you and not TILE Piere ? Pretty strange if you ask me.Shimmer,If I had tiled JA for every insult he gave, he would have about a million tiles by now, and you know it.  Did you not see the private warnings I gave him that he posted?  Did you not see the way I p…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 01 2011,18:08)In answer to the question of this thread, spirits have spirit bodies.Very good, David.  You get a gold star for the day.    If ever there are more than one thing, those things have to have some sort of body to separate one from the other, or there would not be MORE THAN one thing, but ONLY one thing.In order fo…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2011,14:23)Mike Boll,So in your heart you choose to deny Scripture is the Word of God because it was written by the hand of man even though it is God that guides that hand.  That is regrettable.Paul states that his message is from God with these words:Colossians 1:25(NIV) reads:Quote I have become its servant by the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 01 2011,14:15)Hi Mike,Happy New Year to you and your handful at the pier!Thanks, but we're back home safe and sound in Az.  Happy new year to you and yours, Kathi.Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 01 2011,14:15)If the 'temple' was the Father's in that verse, it would not say 'His' temple but 'My' temple.  I checked the Greek and it i…[Read more]

Hi Francis,I extend my wishes for you to have a profitable new year.  I assume you know I don't refer to money, but to treasures stored in heaven.    And thank you for the commendation.  I too invest in these debates because iron sharpens iron.  And unlike many people who are happy to just believe what their church tells them and not even give…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2010,19:26)Mike Boll,This does not seem hard to understand by one whom claims scripture that is written by men is the Word of God.   It does not care what instrument God used be it dog, man, angel, or even a donkey the word he speaks through them still originates with him.  I am totally convinced Jesus speaks the Word of G…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 01 2011,09:50)So Terricca………..Then scripture is lying where it say ” Know you not your (ARE) the TEMPLES of the living GOD”.  O or do you need me to post that for you guys also. Some more of your and Mikes “NEW: Teachings right?. IMOpeace and love……………………………….geneGene,Where did that come…[Read more]

Quote (heaven @ Jan. 01 2011,12:17)I have decided for now to remove all moderators except for myself and Nick. Although Nick hasn't visited for some time.I am on holidays at the moment and have noticed that arguments here have got out of hand. I don't have the time to sort this out now, so I have deleted all new mods for now and will revisit this…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2011,12:01)Mike Boll,Why do you say in your heart that all flesh is the same when God states all flesh is not the same?  Is not it self evident that the natural flesh and blood of a maple tree is not the same as the natural flesh and blood of a human being?Kerwin, What are you on about? I've told you before that you…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 01 2011,09:15)MikeIt is obvious you don't understand the “ransom”.Sorry, I just feel it is pointless at this time to continue, you will believe what you want anyway.GeorgHow disappointing Georg.When did we ever discuss the “ransom”?  Wasn't it me who came to Irene's “rescue” about Jesus being a “ransom sacrifice” the first…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 01 2011,11:03)Jesus claimed the Father is IN HIM, and the he is IN The Father. And in your mind, that means Jesus IS the Father, right?  So how do you reconcile that with these scriptures?John 17:11 NIVI will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 01 2011,10:57)MikeYou skipped this which i thought WJ Made an excellent point Quote You see Mike Jesus is not a god simply by title like all the other false gods because Jesus fulfills the Role of being God. Yet you do not admit that he is your God. How sad indeed.Who is Jesus “The God” of Mike, since you have no…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 01 2011,10:38)Jesus Is God, as Satan is not.Can you prove that otherwise. Absolutely D.John 17:3 NIVNow this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.John 20:17 NIVJesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2010,16:49)Is THE FATHER the Only One True Powerful Ruler mentioned in scripture?  Yes or No, Keith.   Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 01 2011,08:36)MikeThe answer is Yes!Keith, if the answer is YES, then what's left to discuss?  If the FATHER is the One, then Jesus is NOT that On…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 01 2011,01:23)Pierre,There are two different messengers in that passage.  The messenger that will prepare the way of the Lord is John the Baptist, the messenger of the new covenant is Christ.  God's temple is also Christ's temple.  The glory of God fills the temple and the Son is the radiance of that glory.Ah, I didn't re…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 31 2010,15:52)Pierre,Matt 11:9-119 “But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and one who is more than a prophet. 10 “This is the one about whom it is written, 'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER AHEAD OF YOU, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.' 11 “Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 31 2010,14:29)Look at #4 “His temple.” The word “His” refers to “the Lord” in the same verse, verse 3 and “the Lord” is Christ who is the one coming.Hi Kathi,First, the only ones in scripture who are said to have temples are God and false gods. Jesus is neither of these things Kathi, and Jesus doesn't have a temple where…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Dec. 31 2010,15:49)I drive a Chevrolet. It says on the door seal that it was manufactured by Chevrolet. With that said I know that altho the car says it was manufactured by Chevy…I know it was in fact manufactured by a group of people in a factory. Why doesn't their individual names appear on the door seal? They are the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 01 2011,08:36)If God means “Powerful Ruler” then the question would have to be “Is YHVH the Only One True Powerful Ruler mentioned in scripture?”Yes or No Mike?You manipulate the words by saying the quesion is “Is YHVH the ONLY “powerful ruler” mentioned in scripture?”What happened to the words “ONLY ONE TRUE”?Okay…[Read more]