Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2011,20:40)Pierre,Angels are not even required as God could have chosen to speak to Lot from the boards of his house or the air in his home if he chose to.  In this case it appears that God tested Lot’s heart toward strangers and keeping his word.   God could have easily sent humans to do the same even humans that were una…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 07 2011,10:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 07 2011,08:52)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 07 2011,05:59)I accept your humble apology and I am instructed by it. I apologize for my provocative manner in the past. I have mellowed since then due to the good character of people on another board I am active on. The misquotes were not…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,09:18) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 07 2011,02:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2011,18:35)Jesus is the god, or “powerful ruler” of all in heaven right now, and of the believer's on earth. So Jesus is actually reigning and not just “waiting” at God's right hand after all? So Jesus is not a god in the same sense as…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 07 2011,08:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2011,18:35)Jesus is the god, or “powerful ruler” of all in heaven right now, and of the believer's on earth. So Jesus is actually reigning and not just “waiting” at God's right hand after all? So Jesus is not a god in the same sense as satan after all?JackHi Jack, What does that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 07 2011,06:41)And why not? “ONLY TRUE KING OF KINGS” would mean that there is “NO OTHER TRUE KING OF KING” and all others are false, right? You see what I mean Mike? Words for you and JA don’t mean anything because you can manipulate them any way you want.That is the pot calling the kettle black, Keith.  Show me th…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 07 2011,06:12)Mikeboll said:Quote His own God, YHVH Almighty, has let His servant Jesus hold this position and power for a while,Jesus became a servant and then was exalted. He is no longer a servant. See our debate here https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=3358Jesus is also called “the true God.” See my debate with…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 06 2011,15:08)Mike! very good post, and I agree…..Peace IreneThank you very much, Irene! I hope things are well with you and Georg. peace and love to you both,mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 07 2011,05:59)I accept your humble apology and I am instructed by it. I apologize for my provocative manner in the past. I have mellowed since then due to the good character of people on another board I am active on. The misquotes were not intentional. Jack Acknowledged, accepted and forgotten.

Quote (francis @ Jan. 04 2011,17:50)BTW… I enjoy all your posts. You raise some interesting questions and I am having a blast as I attempt to find the truth and formulate an answer. I absolutely LOVE being intellectually challenged. Nothing is more invigorating or more pleasurable.Keep it coming!!!!Ditto!

Hi Francis,I hope you and yours are well.  I am enjoying our debate, and I hope you are too.  I understand the reasoning behind your rebuttal of my understanding of Micah 5:4.  I do not share your belief that Jesus is God, and therefore see no time limit set in Micah for Jesus to shepherd in the strength and authority of his God.Quote (francis @…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 06 2011,09:02)To Gene!1Cr 15:38   But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 1Cr 15:44   It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.  Gene, what do you think spiritual bodies are?Hi Irene,Thank you for all your kind wo…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 06 2011,02:21)I realize it probably is not an easy task. If I didn't get into so many heated discusions I may be more qualified.I think the best candidate over all, while the ones I have mentioned are good, would be seekingtruth (WM)I concur.  Now that I have cooled down, it does become very clear that Kathi was…[Read more]

Keith,There is no “point” that I'm refusing to concede.  You know that YHVH is called the “King of kings”.  Yet, so is Jesus, Nebuchadnezzar and Artaxerxes.  But if I were to emphasize that YHVH was the “ONLY TRUE KING OF KINGS”, it would not mean the others were “false kings”, “usurpers”, or “imposters”.  It would be an emphatic way of saying tha…[Read more]

Tim, I love you. We see things differently, but you seem to come from a good spiritual place.We'll talk more later about doctrines. I'm behind on my correspondence in many threads. May God bless you abundantly, brother.mike

I'm all for peace, Shimmer. No grudges, water under the bridge, and all that stuff.mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,08:39)Pierre,The 'messenger' rules on the throne in the temple of the Lord.  The one on the throne in the temple is deity in the temple and is worshiped.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?Revelation 3:21 NIVTo the one who is victorious, I will give the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2011,12:58)Jesus does both as I recall plus, in the temple He has the office of High Priest.Hi Kathi,You are so right. Jesus is the Priest. When has God ever allowed one of His PRIESTS to be worshipped? A priest is one who goes before God in behalf of mankind. A priest is not the God he goes before, nor is he…[Read more]

I pray for peace and love for you, my brother JA. May God bless you and keep you safe and grant you serenity and understanding and all good things in your life.mike

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,14:14)You had already lost TWO 'debates' and knew you would lose a third but you would not lose it against JustAskin as you lost your previous two debates…against him too.Dude, really?  Do you seriously think you ARE someone else now?  We've known that “Istari” was “JA” for the whole three days you've been d…[Read more]