Hi Gene and Tim,Isaiah 29:16You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay!mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2011,01:56)I have no problem with the Word coming to be (IN) JesusHi Gene,We all know that YOU have no problem with it. But unfortunately, that's not what the scripture says.Gene's translation: The Word came to be IN someone who was flesh.Actual translation: The Word BECAME flesh.Quite a difference there,…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 30 2011,20:32)May the most high God of love as portrayed through Jesus, bless you abundantly with health and life and fill your heart with the joy of the lord through the truth.  TKThank you Tim,And may God open your eyes to see that it is HIM, and not YOU, who decides whether or not you will be healthy or sick.Exodus 4:11…[Read more]

Tim, I believe you think too highly of your meager existence. We are dust of the earth made alive by the breath and grace of our God, who is not dust of the earth. We are not “parts of the being of God”, but rather only one of the many things He created for His own pleasure.mike

Quote (mikeangel @ Jan. 30 2011,20:55)Better to understand that God caused Mary to become pregnant with Jesus BY MEANS OF His Holy Spirit.–MikebollWhere is this in the Bible?Hi Mark,Are you sure you want to discuss this with me?  Last time you started the conversation, (actually, butted in to one I was having with Kathi), and then ended up…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2011,09:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2011,08:15)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 30 2011,06:41)You are a hypocrite and I can't stand your butt!But I still love you, Jack.  Hi Mike,I don't believe Jack likes me either,so welcome to the club! (John 15:19)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYeah, but…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 29 2011,15:12)To all,None of the choices seem to fit what I currently believe as I believe the Holy Spirit is a force of God but is also a part of God.  I also pelieve it has characteristics of a person but is not a person in its own right.Still, I am still learning.Hi Kerwin,I agree with everything you said, especially the…[Read more]

Tim,There's really nothing more to say at this time. One of us believes all the words of scripture and one of us doesn't.I go through this with Adam too. In fact, I recently told him that he should get together with you and you guys can make up your own religion. Both of you only want to believe the words of scripture that are to YOUR liking.…[Read more]

I see you are all telling Francis to “stand his ground” on an issue that is nothing but a diversion so he can stall about the actual debate.  I've accepted “God” as a real DEFINITION of the word “elohim” for the purposes of the debate.  What more can I do?  Would you all have me LIE and say I really believe it when I don't?    I know the word is t…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 30 2011,06:58)Now, which of Francis' points SPECIFICALLY did I not addresss that have you concerned?  Post ONE of them here, and I will address it or show you where I already DID address it.  If you're not willing to do that, then pipe down about it.Do you see that word SPECIFICALLY above, D?  Do you see the last se…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 30 2011,06:41)You are a hypocrite and I can't stand your butt!But I still love you, Jack.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2011,06:21)As you know you have not disproven anything that we have provenAs your hero Francis says, nothing but mathematics can be PROVEN.  So what is it that your “WE” have PROVEN?  Keith, is being called “elohim” proof of being God Almighty?  NO, right?  But for years, people have been pointing to John 1:1 and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2011,05:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2011,13:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2011,05:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2011,12:57)Face it, you guys have nothing BUT the insults, because not one of you can refute my points.  So instead, you insult my style of debating and other PERSONAL things about me.  But t…[Read more]

I think that Keith and Dennison and Jack should spend less time trying to prove how “arrogant” I am and more time trying to prove the things I'm pointing out are scripturally or logically wrong.Let me know when I make a claim that you CAN actually SCRIPTURALLY refute, okay guys? mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2011,05:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2011,12:57)Face it, you guys have nothing BUT the insults, because not one of you can refute my points.  So instead, you insult my style of debating and other PERSONAL things about me.  But that's cool.  I understand that you started this thread to give a Hooray to Francis ab…[Read more]

So…………….ONCE AGAIN………………..he is attempting to PROVE something that is NOT mathematics, when he railed on and on about how nothing can be PROVED outside of mathematics.I was trying to be funny, Keith. It was a joke and a play on his OWN words. Lighten up, will ya? mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2011,04:34)No one is using it for personal insults but to merely point out your errors and misrepresentations.And which “error” have you pointed out?  The one where “elohim” absolutely DOES mean “God Almighty” every time it's used?  The one where Psalm 45 is NOT about a secular king, but about God Almighty who h…[Read more]

No Keith,He said he would attempt to PROVE he has a stronger case than I do. Now, how is he going to PROVE this when, by his own words, nothing but mathematics can be PROVED?Please answer this question, Keith.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 30 2011,04:03)The Spirit (intellect) of Truth IS ALSO AN ATTRIBUTE OF GOD.Hi Gene,And so what you're saying is that an attribute of God shares an image with God?  Does your attribute of “truth” share your “image”?  How about your attribute of “justice”.  Does that attribute have an “image” of its own that is like yo…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 30 2011,04:10)MikeThe fact is you misquoted him. To “Attempt” to prove does not mean you “will prove” does it?Hi Keith,And once again YOU are the one who is lost here.  How can one ATTEMPT to do something that he already KNOWS is impossible?Btw, I purposely DIDN'T use quotation marks because I wanted it to be clear…[Read more]