Hi Marty,You have spoken correctly this time. GOD is the Father of Jesus. NOT God's Holy Spirit. God's Holy Spirit is the “tool” God used to impregnate Mary, like a human male will impregnate someone BY MEANS OF his penis. But the penis does not become the father of the child anymore than the PART OF God He used to impregnate Mary became the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2011,05:25)Every thing written about Jesus was to His Glory , but he only had it in the foreknowledge of GOD he did not have it until he acquired it after his resurrection, but it indeed was a Glory he had with the Father before he ever existed as the one to fulfill and attained to that Glory.Gene, You seem to get…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 31 2011,07:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,09:52)Hi Gene and Tim,Isaiah 29:16You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay!mikeMikewell said Thanks Pierre,Tim seems to think we are all a “part” of God Himself – as if we are 1 one billionth God or something. And he also thinks it's up…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2011,05:33)Mike……….you have it wrong brother, God said HE created every thing “(ALONE) and (BY HIMSELF)”.No, YOU are wrong, Gene.NOT ONE THING CAME INTO EXISTENCE WITHOUT JESUS. God created everything ALONE, but He apparently chose to do this THROUGH his only begotten Son, for that's what the scriptures say.…[Read more]

Ed, how did the Greeks express possession? How would they write “Spirit OF God”, for instance?mike

Hey Irene,Cool gunslinger!

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2011,05:09)Hi Mike,I never said the “HolySpirit” is the entirety of YHVH.But you and others here have trouble understanding the “HolySpirit” is Jesus' father.No again, Ed.I have to be blunt here, but we're all adults, right?  Ed, YHVH is the Father of Jesus.   YHVH impregnated Mary BY MEANS of His Holy Spirit.  God's Holy Sp…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2011,05:17)Hi Mike,There is no word “of” in either the Hebrew Masoretic Texts or the Greek Texts of the bible.Perhaps this is why this word gives you such trouble. Just like the indefinite article “a”; huh? There's no indefinite article in either the Hebrew Masoretic Texts or the Greek Texts of the bible.Oh No! Really Ed?…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2011,04:35)Did you not read those verses I Posted?Yes Ed,I read them.  What is it that YOU think they should be teaching me?  I could post scriptures all day long.  That doesn't mean that YOU will understand the message I'm hoping they will convey to you.  Like I said:  Please elaborate.Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2011…[Read more]

No Ed, Your own wording should tell you that. You asked if “YOUR” spirit is you. If you have to use the words “YOUR SPIRIT”, then it becomes clear that my spirit is A PART OF ME, but not the entire being of Mike Boll.Get it? Third grade logic, my friend.mike

Ed,Pick a point and ask a question about it. Your post of hundreds of words of scripture says nothing to me about your understanding. Btw, if Jesus is the one who sowed the good seed, then the referrence to the seed being the “word of God” is a different referrence than Jesus being called the “Word of God” because he is God's spokesman. For…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:34)The glory is that which he received of God His Father when He brought him forth into this world as His Only Begotten Son and anointed him as His Christ, and savior of all mankind, and as his heir, and that he exalted him to His right hand as head of the church as Lord and Christ, and to be the judge of the Living…[Read more]

What are you bumping? The whole thread? Use your third grade logic, Ed. Something OF someone cannot BE the entire being of that someone. Unless of course you say, “The ENTIRE BEING OF God”. Then it could. peace and love,mike

I see no discrepancy, Ed.Please elaborate.The Spirit OF God cannot be God the Father Himself.  The “truth” OF God is not God Himself.  The “justice” OF God is not God Himself.  The “long outstretched arm” OF God cannot be the entire being of God Himself.Are you following this 3rd grade logic?  mike

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2011,04:11)Hi Mike,Why can't the “us”, be referring to all of us?Hi Ed,Because God didn't create “all of us” THROUGH “all of us”. He created “all of us” through only Jesus.Also, do you have fond memories of the glory you had at God's side in heaven before the founding of the earth? Jesus did.mike

Yes Ed,They were called prophets, as was Jesus. Now who was the greatest prophet of all? Remember the parable of the tenants? The owner sent many of his servants (prophets), but they killed them all. So the owner thought, “I will send my own son, surely they will respect him”. But the killed him also.So who is the greatest one that God sent…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2011,03:08)Jesus has all these in him and so do the Saints of God ,Yet, for some odd reason, I haven't ever read a scripture where Jesus or any of the Saints talked to their “attributes” as if they were separate individuals like you assert God did in Gen 1:26.Did Jesus ever say to his “attributes”, “Hey, attributes,…[Read more]

And Gene,If you really agree that Jesus is called by the title “Word of God” because he is God's spokesman, then why can't you see that this “Word of God” existed in the form of God, but then emptied himself and BECAME flesh?Do you see how nicely John 1:14 and Phil 2 tie in together?mike

Okay Gene,Let's run with this for a minute.  I think the BEING of Jesus had the title “Word of God” because he was God's main spokesman.  I believe that the BEING of Jesus BECAME flesh and dwelled among us.You believe that the words of God came to be IN the flesh and blood human being Jesus.  But weren't there many others who spoke the words of Go…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2011,02:46)So being you are insisting a “WORD “IS” FLESH” or as you say the WORD BECAME FLESH. when was the last time you (SEEN) a FLESH WORD ,Ah, but many people saw the SPOKESMAN of God, also dubbed “the Word” of God, because he was the SPOKESMAN of God. The spokesman for the Abyssinian King is also called “the…[Read more]