Really Ed?  Jesus is the firstborn of all creation FOR all things were created through him.  That's what the sentence says.  It is not two thoughts, but one continuing sentence from 1:15 to 1:16…………..linked together by the word BECAUSE.Paul is saying that it is clear that Jesus was the first ever created, BECAUSE all things were then cr…[Read more]

What about Genesis?  Nevermind Gene.  I'm tired of discoursing with someone who only says what HE wants to say, but doesn't answer MY points also.I've asked you if Genesis could be saying that God breathed life into Adam, and he became a living soul……………WITHIN THE BODY GOD CREATED.  I got no response.The Hebrew word “nephesh” COULD re…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 02 2011,14:05)Paul, at no time in that chapter, makes reference to the Spirit. He says that they who are raised – in the first resurrection – will be become like Jesus, raised in a Spiritual body.Hello Wizard,Actually, what he says is that Jesus NOW is as those of heaven ARE……………not WILL BE.mike

I would like to hear Tim's answer to that question also, Ed.Plus, who was Tim raging against anyway? Who is this one who has “rejected Bod, Stu, and now Adam”? He didn't address the post to anyone in particular.Tim, who were you talking about?mike

Hey Jack,Did you read the defintion of “entity” that Ed posted? How do you answer to those words like “independent”, “self contained”, “distinct” and “separate”?mike

Hi Paladin,I find you to be intelligent, passionate about scriptural knowledge, and down to earth.  You are a welcome arrival to Heaven Net.  I hope you stick around.  Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 02 2011,06:27)The reason for translating elohim “angels” is because it is quoted that way in Hebrews 2:7,9. Ah, but Heb 2:7 is a quote OF the LXX, not the ot…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 02 2011,14:30)What is so funny is how Mike has rearanged his questions to include the Title God as if that is Gods name or that the Title only refers to the “One True God”, yet Mike so adamently wanted to argue that “God” does not identify “God” because according to him the definition is simply “ruler”.No, what I've…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 02 2011,14:23)What is so confusing about it? A 'being' is anything that has existence.being 1. existence (Webster's)being 1. existence as opposed to non-existence (Funk and Wagnall's)Note that the FIRST definition of the word 'being' by the two lexographers above is 'EXISTENCE.”We're more interested in the NOUN,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 02 2011,12:17)Hi Mike,       Jack said:Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 03 2011,04:43)A “being” is anything that exists whether personal or non personal animate or inanimate terrestrial or celestial.       I told you Jack defines words in a 'confusing' manor!       That is why you MUST ask him 'how' he is defining       the word…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 02 2011,11:10)Amen Keith! God is light. Christ is the TRUE light (John 1:9). The implication is clear. If Christ was the mere reflection of God, then He could not Himself be the TRUE (or genuine) light.JackYet the disciples are now the “light”, right? Are they all “God” too?mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 02 2011,10:06)Mike,It a sculptor takes a big rock being and saws it in half and then from each half makes an individual sculpture, do the sculptures by their individuality become two separate beings?Hi Jack,If you are going to consider a big rock a “being”, then YES, by cutting it in half and making two smaller…[Read more]

Hi Keith,I'm impressed with your knowledge of these things, and also that you are true to the words of Jesus when he said, “Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar………..”Many people consider it no big deal to cheat on their taxes. They apparently consider it a victimless crime. And many of those consider themselves “Christian”.mike

Bump for KeithQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,13:18)Mike No because if I say you are the “Exact representation of a human being” am I saying that you are not a human being?Keith, look at your own words.  I've already explained this to you.  God is not some kind of “species”, of which there are many members.  So don't use “A human being” in…[Read more]

Yes Ed,And why not address this one?15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2011,08:39)No scripture shows a Soul alive or LIVING without a Body or after the body dies.Not even this one?Revelation 6 NIV9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud…[Read more]

Nevermind.

Hi Ed,I believe the words of scripture to be inspired of God…………..but not any particular translation in general.mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 01 2011,16:54)t8,You're pulling an arrogant Mikeboll thing now. Mikeboll's chest beating is rubbing off on you.Jack,Don't confuse “arrogance” with “confidence”. Two years ago, when I started debating with you, I was a scared little puppy who knew very little about scripture. God has given me all the confidence…[Read more]

Hi Jack,If you think this pastor was mistreated by “the power structure” of your church, causing him to leave prematurely, then do this in two stages.First, attend the meeting, and let the board give him a fair severence -EVEN IF THEY VOTE “NO” ON FORGIVING THE LOAN.After he has secured his FAIR severence, only then would I go to the gifters, the…[Read more]

Hi Jack,It's easy just to claim things with bolded, capitalized letters and exclamation points.  It's another to prove your claim.Can you show me, ASIDE FROM TRINITY WRITINGS, where two people are ever said to be the SAME BEING?  Do you have scriptural support aside from your claims about a triune God?Do you have the secular support of any sane p…[Read more]