Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 06 2011,09:19)You believe God creates his angles as spirit (BEINGS). I believe He creates His Angel's SPIRITS (that is in them) AND SENDS THEM OUT TO MINISTER.Gene, it doesn't really matter what YOU think, does it?  The scripture says that angels ARE spirits, not that angels HAVE spirits within them.  So you can THINK w…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 06 2011,02:50)Mike said:Quote The green words above are words written by TRINITARIANS!We just want the word of God Mike. PRODUCE THE MANUSCRIPT MIKE!JackJack,Please answer my very simple question:Don't you find it a little odd that Jesus gave an EXACT formula for baptism, yet not ONE of the Apostles followed his…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 06 2011,02:04)I hope this lengthy post clears up the issue of the incarnation of Messiah beginning in Gen 17 rather than in John 1.Well, it IS lengthy, I'll grant you that!    And I understand that when God speaks of some future happening, it is like it is already accomplished, because God says, “whatever I say will be f…[Read more]

Stupid me!  I pasted a copy of Keith's words with MY quotations from when I quoted him.  And that's what I was searching for, and that's why I didn't find it.  Because he didn't originally post it with quotations.  Rookie mistake.    Ed only showed me this F3 search thing yesterday!Anyway, it is on page 118, 6th post from the top in the threa…[Read more]

Sorry David,I just painstakenly did a word search from page 30 until the end, and nothing popped up to match those words.I don't know what to tell you. You know how sometimes the same discussion bleeds over to other threads? Maybe that's what happened. But I found it the first time when I started this thread, and I could have sworn it is in the…[Read more]

Hi Kar,You can't really add Gene to your number. He DOES believe that angels have bodies. He just, for some reason, doesn't believe the scripture that tells us angels ARE spirits.But that's just Gene for ya. He only believes the scriptures he wants to believe.mike

Hey t8! Could you help with this? I put the words of WJ's quote into the search, and it did bring up that thread. But is there a way to narrow it down to a page?mike

Oh man! I thought I had gotten a glimpse of Karmarie, the writer.

Hi Mark,Ye though I walk………….I will fear no evil, for my LORD is with me.  I don't compare a “black church” to the valley of death here.  I only point out that I'm sure God will be with you, as He is with the members of the church you choose to attend.But…………..could you make it a non-trinitarian church – just to be SURE God is w…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 05 2011,18:16)Such is the case when King David furrows his brow and huffs: Good “word picture” Kar. I like that one. mike

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Mar. 04 2011,03:18)I fired off to quickly with my mind full of anti-censorship instead of a more controled study of like minds.Hi Tim,No worries.    You and I butt heads on matter of scripture, but you have always shown me respect.  I hope I have done the same to you.You know, t8 is usually the first one to the battle against St…[Read more]

Sorry David. I just looked for 15 minutes, but couldn't find it.mike

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 05 2011,16:27)Therefore, the “incarnation” of Jesus began with Adam, according to the geneologies in the new testament, and began with “the woman” of Gen 3:15 according to the messianic prophecies. This completely destroys the trinitarian perspective that Jesus was “incarnated” at his birth from Mary.Hey Paladin,I'm all for…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2011,16:22)mike and T8if you are right then we are not guilty of sin,I don't follow you, Pierre. What do you mean?

Quote (david @ Mar. 05 2011,15:32)Gen. 2:7: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” This is NOT distinguishing Adam becoming a “living” soul as if he were a dead soul and then was given life becoming a living soul.  I believe it is s…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2011,16:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2011,03:56)Hi All,IMO, the soul is like a computer hard drive.  It is our intellect and our memories and completely who we are.Our spirit is like a USB/Power cable plugged into us.  It not only give us the electricity needed to power our “hard drive”, but can also feed us information via “…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 03 2011,02:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,09:09)Hi Keith,I'm impressed with your knowledge of these things, and also that you are true to the words of Jesus when he said, “Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar………..”Many people consider it no big deal to cheat on their taxes.  They apparently consider…[Read more]

Ed is right. After reading those white letters on a black background for a few minutes, the eyes become strained. mike

Hi Karmarie,Don't take this the wrong way, but until you or JA have an actual answer to my question about “separation”, I'm done talking about this subject with you two.peace and love to both of you,mike

Quote (david @ Mar. 05 2011,15:14)“Isn't that what Francis, D, and Jack and I have been saying………….Everyone not just I are saying that just because Jesus is called God does not mean he is God.”Did WJ really say this?  Is this the end of trinity discussion?  Have I just stepped into another dimension?So, “I are saying that just because J…[Read more]